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E85 NO MORE!!! Now called Flex Fuel ethanol and is lowered to E54

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Old May 26, 2017, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRealDirtyDan
Oh ok, hopefully when I get it tuned I can get a consistent 80-85% then.
Heres a pic of fuel just picked up in La Mirada (appears as 90%)
Old May 31, 2017, 12:46 PM
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From what I heard FiTronic stopped making the flex kits for the 8/9
Talk with Tom, I thought he had some units still, no?
Old Jun 2, 2017, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
Heres a pic of fuel just picked up in La Mirada (appears as 90%)
Nice, that's good to see that were still 85%+. Do you check it every time you fill up?
Old Jun 2, 2017, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ZOMGWRX
Nice, that's good to see that were still 85%+. Do you check it every time you fill up?
EvO is just a weekender, so dont fill up too much. But have checked the La Mirada station more than a few times. Always has been on the top peg of 85%
Old Jun 23, 2017, 09:53 AM
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I live a block from e85 station no issue yet
Old Jul 7, 2017, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Thoe99
The Citgo in Orlando, FL, off of I4 exit 81C, tests 87½% ethanol as of a week ago.

I don't drive my Evo much nowadays, and I still have the same jugs of E85 since 9 months ago. I tested the fuel again and it appears the ethanol content went up about an estimated 2.5% compared to when it was fresh on day 1

So I repeated the test 2 more times with the same result. Not complaining

I'm gonna store a cup of this ethanol and check again in a year. This is interesting. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

Old Jul 9, 2017, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Thoe99

I'm gonna store a cup of this ethanol and check again in a year. This is interesting. Does anyone have an explanation for this?
I'd store a cup of the water you are using for this test also. The ethanol content is not going up.
Old Jul 9, 2017, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Garth
I'd store a cup of the water you are using for this test also. The ethanol content is not going up.

It will if the petrol part of it evaporates.
Old Jul 10, 2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RightSaid fred
It will if the petrol part of it evaporates.
Oh, sorry, Be sure to put secure lids on the E85 and water.
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I currently have them in these red gas jugs. I'm assuming there's some level of evaporating going on in them then?

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I follow Propel on FB & they just posted an update on their remodeling of the pump shrouds. Here was my response & their reply


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I follow Propel on FB & they just posted an update on their remodeling of the pump shrouds. Here was my response & their reply


Thats good info, it further underscores what i said in post #75. If they lower the Ethanol content in the blend they will lose all their California tax incentives, which is probably the only thing keeping E85 production profitable here.
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Originally Posted by WelDun1
Nothing bothers me more than when ppl call E85 "Flex Fuel". The term Flex Fuel means that no matter the ethanol content, your vehicles ECU will adjust the maps accordingly to provide the best performance on that mixture. Ethanol is NOT Flex Fuel...Ethanol is an ALTERNATIVE Fuel. Flex Fuel is an Adjective as opposed to a Noun haha
E54 is obviously a 50/50 mix and quite honestly, very close to being pointless to use! anything under about E35 is an Inefficient mixture of Ethanol/Petrol. E15, which most station use these days, is the close to the maximum amount of Ethanol you can use w/o leaning the AFR out...ive used 20% before w/o any problems but once i hit the 30% mark, the mixture was starting to be a little too lean and causing occasional backfires. You wont see any performance improvements until around E50, and you really cant start advancing the Ign Timing until about E60. It wasnt until E70 to where i started to make significant gains, and from there up is where you start to have fun!
Point is, there is no Point in using E54! LoL
We have only 2 gas stations in NJ that I know of with E85. The most popular being at Newark Airport. It's a shame because it truly is a great fuel... It's all politics.
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Here's a test of a 3yr old sample of E85 I have in a container jug in my garage. The same gas is still in my Evo, which I fired up after letting it sit for a while. It sputtered on a lean condition for about 5 minutes before the air/fuel ratio stabilized back to stoichiometric ratio of 14.7. I figured the fuel in the lines got bad, but not the tank.

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Old Oct 5, 2019, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Thoe99
Here's a test of a 3yr old sample of E85 I have in a container jug in my garage. The same gas is still in my Evo, which I fired up after letting it sit for a while. It sputtered on a lean condition for about 5 minutes before the air/fuel ratio stabilized back to stoichiometric ratio of 14.7. I figured the fuel in the lines got bad, but not the tank.
Thanks for refreshing the post. Good info!
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