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giangi May 29, 2012 12:21 PM

E100, what's the ideal afr?
 
Hi, i'm having the chance to source 99.9% pure ethanol here in Italy, so i'm thinking to swap to it from my actual fuel, normal e85. The car is a drag evo 6, 2.4lr with a borg warner s400 76 mm turbo, would i have real benefits in the change? My main concern is about afr on full load, on e85 i'm about 12.0 afr, is it correct also using e100 or i could go a little bit leaner? Any help would be much appreciated...
Thanks.

PrimerSdime Jun 2, 2012 06:43 AM

It's safe to run 12.5 afr's on e85. I would just tune for whatever makes the most power; whether it be 12.0 or 12.5.

giangi Jun 2, 2012 06:49 AM

Thank you very much for your answer, i will have some time for finishing the tune, second 2.3 block failed at 1090 whp, i think it's time for a 2.1 destroked with aluminium rods and this time 12:1 CR, not less......:mad:

PrimerSdime Jun 2, 2012 07:57 AM

As soon as I can get my car to the dyno I'm going to do some probing with afr's for maximum power on e85. I see a lot of talk about it but haven't seen much evidence.

Tuxevo Jun 2, 2012 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by PrimerSdime (Post 10198932)
As soon as I can get my car to the dyno I'm going to do some probing with afr's for maximum power on e85. I see a lot of talk about it but haven't seen much evidence.

Lol, you must not have looked very hard. Go to the alternative fuels section and soak it up.

PrimerSdime Jun 2, 2012 11:22 AM

I have read plenty, and tune plenty. The only evidence I've seen is virtual dyno logs, which mean nothing to me.

RazorLab Jun 2, 2012 11:40 AM

Be more careful of pre-ignition on E100, compared to E85.

MBT is your best friend.

motorspt Jul 14, 2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by razorlab (Post 10199248)
Be more careful of pre-ignition on E100, compared to E85.

MBT is your best friend.

What is MBT?

Jim in Tucson Jul 14, 2012 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by motorspt (Post 10279868)
What is MBT?

Maximum Brake Torque

:mitsu:

HsamehH Jun 11, 2013 04:07 AM

Ethanol burn slow not fast like C16

HsamehH Jun 21, 2013 07:02 AM

i tested E90 vs E100 yesterday,
power increased but you shouldn't go past 12-11.9 afr,power dropped for me, 12 was my best part.

Jeff_Jeske Jul 8, 2013 11:40 AM

How much did your timing change?

Kracka Jul 8, 2013 12:55 PM

How are you getting 200-proof? That legally wouldn't even be considered a fuel here in the US.

galantman03 Jul 8, 2013 01:02 PM

You can buy 100% directly from ethanol plants, or you can make it yourself


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