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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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? What program are you using? what version of the program?
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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5.6 But the 5.3 doesnt work for me either. The only one that does both graphs for me is the 5.2V.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Thats a new bug I ran into the other day too. I'm not sure why it even happened to be honest.

Turco, I doubt thats actually pulling the most power at 7200 rpm and is more likely an effect of the final RPM values landing on a difficult RPM for the formulas to decide where to put. Thats why I added the RPM trim. try lowering the max RPM setting down in 50 RPM increments and see if it drops down like our power curves generally on the stock turbo. If not, its definitely legit.

Also, post up some "before and after" dyno comparisons of some of your tuning sessions to show us how well you can see the improvements happening

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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
Thats a new bug I ran into the other day too. I'm not sure why it even happened to be honest.

Turco, I doubt thats actually pulling the most power at 7200 rpm and is more likely an effect of the final RPM values landing on a difficult RPM for the formulas to decide where to put. Thats why I added the RPM trim. try lowering the max RPM setting down in 50 RPM increments and see if it drops down like our power curves generally on the stock turbo. If not, its definitely legit.

Also, post up some "before and after" dyno comparisons of some of your tuning sessions to show us how well you can see the improvements happening
I lowered it 100rpm and it still is pulling, i think itis legit.

Here is a comparison from an earlier log. The whole time he was running my tuned MIVEC map. I did add a touch of MIVEC to redline and it did change the HP up top. I will try to find that log as well.

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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:00 AM
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To be certain go as much as 250rpm but you should never need to go more than that to correct the math error. Thats great if its legit though

Its so cool seeing your progress with this thing. I just started tuning my Evo again before I sell it to my buddy Brent and this has been very useful
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:40 AM
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Jamie you mentioned that stock evo numbers look high but you are using dynojet so maybe try the evom setting.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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I must be doing something wrong if I can't get my ride over 340whp(evo-m mode) up top WITH alky and it seems like every tune you do hits that much without it. Granted I know they have mivec and a IX turbo lol. Turco, have you changed the knock multipliers? I had to for my low and a little for my mid but I never touched my high but I would assume that if the sensativity needed to be toned down for the lower ranges that maybe I should change the high multiplier by 1 at least? Maybe thats whats holding me back.

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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:44 AM
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Jamie you mentioned that stock evo numbers look high but you are using dynojet so maybe try the evom setting.

Nah, I KNOW the Mustang #'s are close and they read around 243whp which is what a dynojet would read so its either the wrong data entered for weight and such or the corrections arent right but they seem to be right so its odd. More data will confirm it....just takes time and volunteers. The MOST important data for this simulator is to KNOW your vehicle weight for certain. I wouldnt even suggest bragging about your numbers until the weight is dialed in personally.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
Nah, I KNOW the Mustang #'s are close and they read around 243whp which is what a dynojet would read so its either the wrong data entered for weight and such or the corrections arent right but they seem to be right so its odd. More data will confirm it....just takes time and volunteers. The MOST important data for this simulator is to KNOW your vehicle weight for certain. I wouldnt even suggest bragging about your numbers until the weight is dialed in personally.
I just go conservative on the weight and it is what it is. Graph i posted i lowered the weight cause i wasn't sure what it was but there was def 500lbs of man in the car. In the end it is a simulator so it is only as accurate as you make it. If you don't know, go conservative. Or just don't get hung up on numbers...
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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Yeah but I'm an accuracy junky so it drives me bonkers lol. I'd be the most **** person if I ran a dyno lol. Most consistent results in town lol.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
Yeah but I'm an accuracy junky so it drives me bonkers lol. I'd be the most **** person if I ran a dyno lol. Most consistent results in town lol.
maybe we should get a real dyno
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 07:10 AM
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lol,TurboBrain already wants to start up a shop with me too. I would love to start something if I wasn't trying to buy a house. You get the shop (as close to RI as possible) and I'll work there part-time for sure! So what do you think about my knock multiplier question? Its a toughy for me.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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maybe we should get a real dyno
one of the locals was mentioning the other day that he ordered an AWD mustang Dyno. I'd be glad to get my car weighed and compare things if need be.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Just wanted to say thanks for this. Looks great so far and i can't wait to play with it some more.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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dude Jamie wtf I just came across this I'm going to spend the day now playing with this
I just gotta figure out why a 3port won't work for me but a mbc will give me high boost.. but that's another topic I might be throwing a few texts your way
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