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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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I've been waiting for free time to try this but we havent had any chance to work on our shop cars at all this season. Email tephra and see if he can send you the 9653 rom he had originally sent me to try, Jay. I would love to see this feature implemented.

-Jamie
ah I hate that ROM. lol. I use 9417 for EVO 8s.

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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 06:16 PM
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Yeah, the shop car I intended to test it with was a 1G DSM with an Evo8 ECU at the time.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 02:46 AM
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Incorporate into 90550701 and i'll happily test for you.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Only issue I see is if I was in 5th at 15* of timing and 32psi of boost with an EGT of 1200*F (nominal now) and with the timing trim per gear pulled .5* per gear that would drop it 12* or so. What happens to my EGTs in a sustained pull in 5th at 150mph+?

I would much rather fuel trim per gear. I dont mind being an 11.0 in 5th vs the 12.2 it is now.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Ideally, as I originally stated, I prefer to see a timing and fuel trim per gear since both are beneficial. Forgive me if I am wrong but the way you made your statement Aaron, it sounds like you think this is an individual setting that is added per gear. It is an individual adjustable trim per gear, referenced from the high oct map values. Basically, identical to the AEM EMS settings, ideally.

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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Oh percentage? So I could leave high timing for 1-2 then pull 10% as a trim 3+? I dont use that feature in the AEM so I am not too familiar with it.

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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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No its actually an individual adder/subtractor per gear.



In the example above, say the peak timing was 15* in the high octane timing map, 4th gear would run EXACTLY what was in the map. 5th gear would subtract 3* globally from the values in the map so it would hit a peak value of 12*, while 1st gear would be adding 5* so it would hit a peak of 20*. Those values were strictly examples btw. A Fuel trim setting per gear would be setup as a multiplier though, not an adder/subtractor like the ignition timing would be.

We would need this feature to work just like the open loop parameters do, so you must exceed a certain engine load before the trims take effect. That way we aren't adding/subtracting any timing while cruising.


-Jamie

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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For the record, there is a set of fuel enrichment under knock parameters in there somewhere.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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For the record, there is a set of fuel enrichment under knock parameters in there somewhere.
I always wondered about that, thanks for clarifying. Have addresses?
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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Bump for updates.

Should I contact tephra directly for testing? I'd like to see this released.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynotech Tuning
No its actually an individual adder/subtractor per gear.



In the example above, say the peak timing was 15* in the high octane timing map, 4th gear would run EXACTLY what was in the map. 5th gear would subtract 3* globally from the values in the map so it would hit a peak value of 12*, while 1st gear would be adding 5* so it would hit a peak of 20*. Those values were strictly examples btw. A Fuel trim setting per gear would be setup as a multiplier though, not an adder/subtractor like the ignition timing would be.

We would need this feature to work just like the open loop parameters do so you must exceed a certain engine load before the trims take effect. That way we aren't adding/subtracting any timing while cruising.


-Jamie
This would be rockin
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 06:22 AM
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Bump for updates.

Should I contact tephra directly for testing? I'd like to see this released.
Yes if you would like. I believe I had forwarded the 9653 test ROM to Jay(Boosted Tuning) but odds are good he is as busy as I am lately and haven't had any time to test it

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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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Agreed, I missed this pop up. I'd like to see the 9417 for my evo 8 race car as 5th gear can be.... troublesome at times.
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