What to use for DataLogging
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Originally Posted by mike1023
why not use the Turbo Xs Tuner Pro, it has wideband, rpm, boost, knock, and ect... so on.. and its small and nice with a lot of good things added, i thing that is the way to go, cheap and easy to use and good logger.
Not a bad idea,however from experiance its not all that nice, easiest way for me to express my Feelings on ANYTHING Turbo XS made it PPOOOOPPPPPP. I hated it when i had it. Its not really Cheap either, and if you ever lose any of the parts its almost worth buying a new one. Id stick with Zeitronix at that point.
in Addition, ECU+ is a very powerful interface, and i would love to get my hands on it. IMOP, i think its the most effective one out there, excellent logging From what i have heard, i have had the chance to tune one and loved every min of it.
But only time will tell, ECU flash was devolped this fast im sure all the little features would be as well.
This was my idea for my setup 20G, Comp Cams 280s, Alky, all supporting mods. maybe a 100 shot of Giggle gas So what i wanted to do was find the parematers to the intercooler sprayer and use it as a flip switch for this new tune, i know that you can have 2 tunes on ECU flash and that would be my agressive street map if you will. I dont know if possible BUT id like to have it Retard timing boost, n20 if lets say there is a lean conition, or knock count is too high, ECT. Im not too sure how im going to make this all work yet, but i think it will
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Looking at the tronix log from the knock buffer I would say both pulls had a knock event. I should note that I had and used the xede smart system for awhile and found it to be less usefull than I had expected it to be. Unless you drive around with a laptop open everyday that data would be very hard to decipher.
As for the ECU+ its no different than any other piggyback/pocketlogger combo. It's still isn't going to log as fast as we truely need it to.
As for the ECU+ its no different than any other piggyback/pocketlogger combo. It's still isn't going to log as fast as we truely need it to.
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
I've never heard that Innovate product log at 1000 s/sec. Also, if you look every where on Innovate website and look though all the manuals, they all say 12 s/sec.
Originally Posted by Zeitronix
From an email
The Zt-2 internal sampling and processing rate is 1000/s. The serial data output is 74/s
The Zt-2 internal sampling and processing rate is 1000/s. The serial data output is 74/s
As for ignition timing, a member here posted that he had his Innovate setup logging quite a number of useful parameters. Link. The DL-32 is pretty pricey, so it's worth investigating how much of that the LMA-3 can do.
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
I didn't say it does all the loggin by OBDII, but it gets timing log from OBDII protocol or what not. I know it has a deticated knock circuit that works very well.
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Well, after looking at all the options (Great info on this thread btw), I think the LM-1 with AUX box is the best and most cost effective. Here is why;
LM1 + Aux box cost is $589 and out of the box you get the following items logged:
RPM, Duty Cycle, Speed, TPS, AFR, Timing, Boost, and Knock (via 5v input)
Along with this you also have the added benefit of a built in accelerometer, which is a great tool that can be used to find weak spots in your tune. It is also portable, so you can use it on your buddies car, doesnt require any splicing, and cheaper then any of the other solutions. Not to mention that it will be nativley supported in EcuFlash in the future.
I really believe this is by far the best solution. Thanks to all for the great feedback on this thread!
References:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...Manual_1.7.pdf
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/p...s/MTS_grid.php
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm
http://www.ecuplus.com/buy.htm
LM1 + Aux box cost is $589 and out of the box you get the following items logged:
RPM, Duty Cycle, Speed, TPS, AFR, Timing, Boost, and Knock (via 5v input)
Along with this you also have the added benefit of a built in accelerometer, which is a great tool that can be used to find weak spots in your tune. It is also portable, so you can use it on your buddies car, doesnt require any splicing, and cheaper then any of the other solutions. Not to mention that it will be nativley supported in EcuFlash in the future.
I really believe this is by far the best solution. Thanks to all for the great feedback on this thread!
References:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...Manual_1.7.pdf
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/p...s/MTS_grid.php
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm
http://www.ecuplus.com/buy.htm
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Nope, it gets it from the crank and cam signals. The same signals the stock ECU gets it from. Not OBDII
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
Actually the logging of timing in ECU+ is through the CAS signal directly.. The OBD-II tool isn't completely integrated into logging at this point (the software portion) so all of the data you log, is directly from all the sensor inputs.
Also, on the ECU+ website, under Features, it list loggin "timing advance" under the OBDII part of features....
New! Integrated full-featured OBD-II code scanner/reader (1995+ DSMs and the EVO8). Includes real-time display of engine parameters from the stock ECU's point of view including:
* Fuel system status (open/closed loop)
* RPM
* Vehicle speed
* O2 sensor voltages
* Short and long-term fuel trims
* Throttle position
* Manifold pressure
* Coolant and air temperature
* MAS air flow
* Timing advance
* All other real-time data supported by your stock ECU in OBD-II mode 1
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I got a question
i just bought an OBD2 computer interface and will use it with my laptop and the proscan 4.0 software.
one of the logging features it will have is ignition timing. should those numbers be the same numbers as the high octane ignition map in the ecu?
i just bought an OBD2 computer interface and will use it with my laptop and the proscan 4.0 software.
one of the logging features it will have is ignition timing. should those numbers be the same numbers as the high octane ignition map in the ecu?
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Originally Posted by elhalisf
I got a question
i just bought an OBD2 computer interface and will use it with my laptop and the proscan 4.0 software.
one of the logging features it will have is ignition timing. should those numbers be the same numbers as the high octane ignition map in the ecu?
i just bought an OBD2 computer interface and will use it with my laptop and the proscan 4.0 software.
one of the logging features it will have is ignition timing. should those numbers be the same numbers as the high octane ignition map in the ecu?
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Well seems like this guy has a surprise for the EVO 8 owners, I been keeping up with this thread for a new datalogger for Evo thru same cable that ecu flash uses.
Quote: from openecu.org
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject:
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Update:
Prototype is working extremely well with OpenPort 1.3M cable. (Thanks RallyCam for lending me your cable)
Supported Vehicles:
Prototype has been tested as working on JDM Evo 4
Prototype has been tested as working on US Evo 8 (Thanks Maalanar)
New Features:
11) Realtime Graphing support
12) Individual data value validation
Screenshots will be posted tomorrow
Quote: from openecu.org
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject:
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Update:
Prototype is working extremely well with OpenPort 1.3M cable. (Thanks RallyCam for lending me your cable)
Supported Vehicles:
Prototype has been tested as working on JDM Evo 4
Prototype has been tested as working on US Evo 8 (Thanks Maalanar)
New Features:
11) Realtime Graphing support
12) Individual data value validation
Screenshots will be posted tomorrow
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Oh yea lol and I definetly don't know how you have more timing than me. It is suppose to decrease as the boost goes up not increase. Every ignition map I have ever seen or used on any of my cars has a sort of step retard in timing even the stock map when I looked at it, but my mail in has like 8 degrees straight across the board from 160% load point to 260% load point and yours was 9 straight across with more boost that was when I was like something aint right. It was good for removing the stock restrictions at least though.