Last chance to get EvoScan
Jul 13, 2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I think they deserve way more than $35
I dont care about open source / closed source to me its like buying a screw driver or wrench - just another tool
It works good and is helpful so the creator should get paid - just my opinion
It was a great value at $15 and its still a great value at $35
I dont care about open source / closed source to me its like buying a screw driver or wrench - just another tool
It works good and is helpful so the creator should get paid - just my opinion
It was a great value at $15 and its still a great value at $35
and if anyone would disagree with opensource it would be you......I wont argue at the value because it truly is. But the opportunity to have some other programmers try stuff and see what things they could implement and ideas put into place is gone. Im disapointed in that, not the program.
Jul 13, 2006, 11:20 AM
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I got the sense that Evo4Mad was pretty put off by the agressive and inconsiderate nature of some of the people on Evom and openecu.
If you combine that with the pride that one has in their own work and the fact that different people wanted to take the program in different directions it makes sense to not want to take it open source.
Personally I think in the end the program and it's offspring would do quite well over time if it was open source--oh well.
If you combine that with the pride that one has in their own work and the fact that different people wanted to take the program in different directions it makes sense to not want to take it open source.
Personally I think in the end the program and it's offspring would do quite well over time if it was open source--oh well.
Jul 13, 2006, 12:17 PM
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Can someone explain what the difference is between Evoscan and PCMSCAN (http://www.palmerperformance.com/) ?
Does the Evoscan have additional features specific to the Evo, or perhaps does it scan quicker or something?
Does the Evoscan have additional features specific to the Evo, or perhaps does it scan quicker or something?
Jul 13, 2006, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Z_Lancer_Man
I also thought that this would and should be open source - just like everything else on openecu.org, hence the name openecu. However, Evo4Mad has put a lot of time and effort into it, which is why it should be by donation only. That way, those who feel he should be paid can pay (or donate) and those who feel it should be open and free can get it free. Just my $.02. Above all though, it really is a great tool.
Originally Posted by nvr2fast
Can someone explain what the difference is between Evoscan and PCMSCAN (http://www.palmerperformance.com/) ?
Does the Evoscan have additional features specific to the Evo, or perhaps does it scan quicker or something?
Does the Evoscan have additional features specific to the Evo, or perhaps does it scan quicker or something?
Jul 13, 2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I think they deserve way more than $35
I dont care about open source / closed source to me its like buying a screw driver or wrench - just another tool
It works good and is helpful so the creator should get paid - just my opinion
It was a great value at $15 and its still a great value at $35
I dont care about open source / closed source to me its like buying a screw driver or wrench - just another tool
It works good and is helpful so the creator should get paid - just my opinion
It was a great value at $15 and its still a great value at $35
i'm not arguing the price. at face value - yes its easily worth more than $35.
by making it closed source, youre taking away my option of taking that screw driver and adding power to it. Maybe your happy with an old fashion screwdriver, some people however like power tools, and like fixing and improving their own tools. I guess i can't expect everyone to comprehend the point of OSS.
Jul 13, 2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
The software itself is definitely worth the money.. I don't have a problem with it going closed source, only I did pay with the expectation that I'd have access to source code. Its no biggie though, like I said, even at $35 its worthwhile..
$115 to fully tune your car, thats the best deal ive seen!
Jul 13, 2006, 03:56 PM
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IMO the value of the pricepoint will be directly related to how well the program runs. At the moment we're still in the beta stage and $35 for a beta product is pushing the limits of acceptability. A (mostly) bug-free full release, on the other hand is certainly worth $35.
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Jul 14, 2006, 01:24 PM
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I paid for but was unable to download evoscan during the payment process.
So now I'm our $15 but don't have the program? What the heck do I do? I assume I only paid for the serial number, which I wrote down....how come there isn't an unprotected link to the executable?
Grrrr....impatient for my evoscan here.
Need the vendor to contact me please.
So now I'm our $15 but don't have the program? What the heck do I do? I assume I only paid for the serial number, which I wrote down....how come there isn't an unprotected link to the executable?
Grrrr....impatient for my evoscan here.
Need the vendor to contact me please.
Jul 14, 2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bhcevo
I paid for but was unable to download evoscan during the payment process.
So now I'm our $15 but don't have the program? What the heck do I do? I assume I only paid for the serial number, which I wrote down....how come there isn't an unprotected link to the executable?
Grrrr....impatient for my evoscan here.
Need the vendor to contact me please.
So now I'm our $15 but don't have the program? What the heck do I do? I assume I only paid for the serial number, which I wrote down....how come there isn't an unprotected link to the executable?
Grrrr....impatient for my evoscan here.
Need the vendor to contact me please.
contact him there because he does not come on evom
Jul 15, 2006, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dudical26
I just want to give you guys a heads up that this is your last chance to get EvoScan for $15. On Friday the 14th, Evo4Mad will be raising the price to $35. So get it now while you still can for $15.
Jul 15, 2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
The software itself is definitely worth the money.. I don't have a problem with it going closed source, only I did pay with the expectation that I'd have access to source code. Its no biggie though, like I said, even at $35 its worthwhile..
Jul 16, 2006, 10:14 AM
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I agree that his efforts are definately worth it. And judging by how many people have gotten the software, he's making good money. The funny thing is though, he never intended to make a datalogger for the EVO community. I believe he started this project a couple years ago to be able to log his own EVO 4. It wasn't until he mentioned that he was working on a logger for himself that others expressed interest in it. I just find it somewhat humorous that his personal project, for his own car is now making him $15 a pop, soon to be $35. That's good entrepenuership.
Jul 16, 2006, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
Honestly though, the guy deserves to get paid for his efforts, alot of work went into this program.. Not to mention he did lay out money for some fairly expensive GUI components to make this look good for everyone.
I would really like to see this stay open source, as was originally announced. If it went open source we would see a constant update stream, and you would get the entire ECU mapped out in only a few months. With just one person working on it we will be lucky to have anything done for years.
If the registration is there only to cover an expensive gauge set, that isnt even working, I would have liked the option to skip that component. Its absolutely useless anyway.
Last edited by PDXEvo; Jul 16, 2006 at 10:45 AM.