Notices
ECU Flash

Idle speed adjustment not working ...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 29, 2008, 08:49 AM
  #91  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,675
Received 128 Likes on 96 Posts
Found more info on High IAT idle and updated the definitions in my earlier post.
Old Nov 29, 2008, 10:10 PM
  #92  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
oldevodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mrfred
Did the logged target idle change when you kicked on the heater? I suspect the answer is no. Sometimes what the idle does during transient engine loading conditions is due more to the stepper value.


Actually target idle does not change but actual idle drops this might be due to load caused by more alternator drag?

My car did not get done so I have not had a chance to check out maps and I need to pull plugs as I'm experiencing higher boost "blowout" I hope or cutout

I will grab updates gotta get all this worked before Red arrives

Thanks
Old Nov 29, 2008, 11:18 PM
  #93  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (47)
 
biggie5252's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,320
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
SI would like to think that the blower motor doesn't pull so much starting current so that the alternator wants to slow down so much to actually slow the motor down. I think i'd prefer the belt to slip through the transient. I know my rpm seem to drop a little bit when my radiator fan kicks on.
Old Nov 30, 2008, 08:00 AM
  #94  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,675
Received 128 Likes on 96 Posts
Originally Posted by biggie5252
SI would like to think that the blower motor doesn't pull so much starting current so that the alternator wants to slow down so much to actually slow the motor down. I think i'd prefer the belt to slip through the transient. I know my rpm seem to drop a little bit when my radiator fan kicks on.
Its the transient load on the alternator. When an electric motor is turned on, the startup current can be quite high and put a substantial transient mechanical load on the alternator for a split second or two.

Last edited by mrfred; Nov 30, 2008 at 09:17 PM.
Old Nov 30, 2008, 04:01 PM
  #95  
Evolving Member
 
Resi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
On a hunch, i decided to use the SAS Actuator and check the BISS idle. It was really low (~400-500), so i adjusted it up to 800rpm, and the transition for the heater and AC is now flawless.

Gonna test some more today, but last night seemed great.

Now just need to see if i can get the warmup idle a little lower.
Old Nov 30, 2008, 04:50 PM
  #96  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,675
Received 128 Likes on 96 Posts
Originally Posted by Resi
...

Now just need to see if i can get the warmup idle a little lower.
Use the "Target Minimum Idle" table for that.
Old Nov 30, 2008, 09:15 PM
  #97  
Evolving Member
 
Resi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mrfred
Use the "Target Minimum Idle" table for that.
just added that to my xml, ill give it a shot tonight.

after testing the AC and heater today while driving, the initial activation of both the heater or the ac, the idle will apparently drop down to whatever my BISS is set to. Since adjusting it yesterday, the heater and AC will drop to 800rpms for the first 5-10 seconds, then resume normal idle (1000rpms).

Gonna test out the target minimum in a bit and ill post my results tomorrow.
Old Nov 30, 2008, 10:14 PM
  #98  
Evolving Member
 
Resi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unfortunately adjusting the Target Minimum Idles table didnt have any affect. When I started the car, it jumps to 2.5k, then tapers to 2k after a few seconds, and then slowly tapers back down to 1k for a couple minutes till them temp reaches ~180F.

Ill see how it is when I head to work in the morning.
Old Nov 30, 2008, 10:51 PM
  #99  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,675
Received 128 Likes on 96 Posts
The idle spike on startup is probably a stepper issue. I'm going to start looking at the stepper control subroutine(s) over the next couple of weeks.
Old Nov 30, 2008, 11:33 PM
  #100  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
oldevodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This gets cooler by the day
Old Dec 1, 2008, 07:28 AM
  #101  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (19)
 
vboy425's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Spec Ops
Posts: 2,387
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
nice
Old Dec 2, 2008, 11:33 AM
  #102  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (47)
 
biggie5252's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,320
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I can't wait for the stepper control stuff. At the moment, my car idles as perfect as it has since stock with the old tables, so I'm scared to try the new ones.
Old Jan 23, 2009, 10:18 AM
  #103  
EvoM Staff Alumni
iTrader: (16)
 
MR Turco's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 3,233
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
after my perrin intake and ported intake mani install i notice my idle seems to be at 1000rpm AC off. has anyone experienced anything similar? I will try to adjust these tables but i fear something else might be wrong unless this is expected.
Old Jul 3, 2009, 05:49 AM
  #104  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (38)
 
shadow1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Laurel, MD
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Any updates on the correct Desired ISCV table addresses?

Edit - nevermind. I found mrfred's extensive ISCV thread.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...sassembly.html

Last edited by shadow1; Jul 3, 2009 at 06:19 AM.
Old May 2, 2017, 11:28 PM
  #105  
Newbie
 
poyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 15
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mrfred
I wasn't able to figure out exactly what MIVEC conditions trigger the use of "Target Idle For Off-Normal MIVEC". There is a bunch more stuff to disassemble to figure it out, and I'm not sure its worth the effort. I may work on that more tomorrow.
Bumping a very very old thread, but wondering you ever got around to figuring out the triggers of Target Idle for Off Normal MIVEC? My car is always uses this value and wondering why it's doing it.

Thanks.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattjin
ECU Flash
122
Apr 8, 2024 05:34 PM
mrfred
ECU Flash
496
Sep 14, 2022 07:08 PM
mrfred
ECU Flash
441
Aug 1, 2022 06:05 AM
SsZERO
ECU Flash
32
Mar 15, 2019 01:40 PM
BCOZEVO
ECU Flash
1
May 28, 2018 04:53 AM



Quick Reply: Idle speed adjustment not working ...



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:52 PM.