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Old Jan 22, 2009, 12:44 PM
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Starting sets for GM 3-port solenoid ?

What do you think about starting sets for Evo8 with full 3" TBE, walbro and stock other. I want see 19.5-20.0 boost flat.
What do you think about target = 230 (80+150) and MWGDC = 100 for 500 - 2500 rpm, 75 for 2750 rpm, 50 for 3000 - 6000 rpm, 75 for 6500, and 100 for higher? Thanks.
Old Jan 22, 2009, 01:56 PM
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Every car is different. You are probably going to have to rock some trial and error either way. Methinks its best for you to half your values, make appropriate adjustments, and work from there. It can't hurt to guess low, but it can go boom if you guess high....

Don't forget to zero out your max boost adder v TPS table and keep an eye on any corrections the ECU is making.

For reference... I started out with 40% across the board since my AEM BCS was running 52% off of the Tru-boost controller and slowly tweaked the rest of the map as necessary. Sometimes adding 1 or 2% can make large leaps, so take your time when you start getting close to your targets.

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axis:
2699.22
2750
3000
3250
3500
3750
4000
4250
4500
4750
5000
5250
5500
6000
6500
7000

map (6th gear):
100
74
74
74
74
74
74
75
74
74
77
80.5
84
89
95
100

that gave me 24psi tapering down to 20psi. I would start with that -10% and see how you go..
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Originally Posted by fostytou
Every car is different. You are probably going to have to rock some trial and error either way. Methinks its best for you to half your values, make appropriate adjustments, and work from there. It can't hurt to guess low, but it can go boom if you guess high....

Don't forget to zero out your max boost adder v TPS table and keep an eye on any corrections the ECU is making.

For reference... I started out with 40% across the board since my AEM BCS was running 52% off of the Tru-boost controller and slowly tweaked the rest of the map as necessary. Sometimes adding 1 or 2% can make large leaps, so take your time when you start getting close to your targets.
How do i add that max boost adder v tps table? how does that help in dialing boost? thanks..
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tephra, I thought you worked out that table had a 2% resoultion cabability.
Thus there was no point in increments of less than 2.
Or I have a (very) bad memory...

I like the scaling setup, was wondering how you were doing that.
Presumably that scale is not used by any other routine?
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true and true (scale is used for BDEL + WGDC)

my ROM has 1% resolution thou (will be in V6)
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Originally Posted by tephra
axis:
2699.22
2750
3000
3250
3500
3750
4000
4250
4500
4750
5000
5250
5500
6000
6500
7000

map (6th gear):
100
74
74
74
74
74
74
75
74
74
77
80.5
84
89
95
100

that gave me 24psi tapering down to 20psi. I would start with that -10% and see how you go..
Master Tephra: What BDLE are your targeting / logging?
Thx!
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using direct boost, so its kinda irrelevant, but 24psi -> 21psi
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Tephra, thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by andrewzaragoza
How do i add that max boost adder v tps table? how does that help in dialing boost? thanks..
Definitions are posted somewhere here. A quick search and you'll find them.

If you zero out the 2 values that this table has, you will essentially turn off upward WGDC correction higher than your WGDC table values. So with this method of boost tuning, you have to make sure to tune for a higher WGDC that would be enough for your desired boost level even in hot weather. And correction will reduce it for you if it's too high. But you'll never get a WDGC higher than what is in your tables. Only up to those values. At the same time it becomes easier to use positive correction values and reduces boost spikes. So you trade off one thing to gain another.
I personally have either 5% or 3% there.. Stock is 10%.
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Originally Posted by mplspilot
Definitions are posted somewhere here. A quick search and you'll find them.

If you zero out the 2 values that this table has, you will essentially turn off upward WGDC correction higher than your WGDC table values. So with this method of boost tuning, you have to make sure to tune for a higher WGDC that would be enough for your desired boost level even in hot weather. And correction will reduce it for you if it's too high. But you'll never get a WDGC higher than what is in your tables. Only up to those values. At the same time it becomes easier to use positive correction values and reduces boost spikes. So you trade off one thing to gain another.
I personally have either 5% or 3% there.. Stock is 10%.
It also helps to reduce it to 0 for tuning so you are not fighting bi-directional corrections and then, if you desire, set it back to stock (or whatever value you want). That way your map can be dialed in (better and easier) but still adjust itself.
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Originally Posted by tephra
using direct boost
Oups, didn't see that part ;-)

Can I guess that it's now possible to have your patched ROM (dual-maps) with direct boost control???
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always, its upto the user to change the scaling for BDEL tables (and associated variables)
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