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Old Mar 29, 2010, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by iTune
Tehpra, any word on the possibility to use the launch maps as a software anti-lag for in between shifts? I've been interested on making this work for awhile now.

Still trying to make the ECU lower the timing retard limit past -10 though....still no luck.
Here you go.

EDIT: You may need to alter the Category in the code below to get it to show up where you want it! For example, I changed the Category from "Ignition" to "Global Ignition Settings"

ALSO: I found that I already had the IgnTimingECUa scaling defined in my XML, so all I needed were the 2 table definitions.
DOUBLE EDIT: I'm a big fat liar. I did *not* have IgnTimingECUa scaling defined, I confused it with something else.

Originally Posted by mrfred
I've been sniffing around the subroutine that sets the ignition retard limit, and it appears that in the newer ROMs, there are two ignition retard limit tables that are used for two different operating conditions. Not sure yet on what conditions these are, but here are the two tables for the 8859XX15 and the 9653XX06. They may both need to be set more neg for ignition to retard further under all conditions. Note that the max possible neg value is about -28 deg. Should be easy for people running newer JDM, EDM, and ADM ROMs to find the additional table by comparing the offset between the two addresses.

8859XX15:

<scaling name="IgnTimingECUa" units="deg" toexpr="61-x*90/256" frexpr="(61-x)*256/90" format="%.1f" min="-30" max="50" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #1" category="Timing" address="205e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #2" category="Timing" address="133e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>

9653XX06:

<scaling name="IgnTimingECUa" units="deg" toexpr="61-x*90/256" frexpr="(61-x)*256/90" format="%.1f" min="-30" max="50" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #1" category="Timing" address="2438" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #2" category="Timing" address="173e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>

88570008-88570014, 88580013-88580015, 88840016, 88900006

<scaling name="IgnTimingECUa" units="deg" toexpr="61-x*90/256" frexpr="(61-x)*256/90" format="%.1f" min="-30" max="50" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #1" category="Timing" address="2038" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #2" category="Timing" address="133e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>


9417XXXX has only one ignition retard limit table:

<scaling name="IgnTimingECUa" units="deg" toexpr="61-x*90/256" frexpr="(61-x)*256/90" format="%.1f" min="-30" max="50" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #2" category="Timing" address="173e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>

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Originally Posted by Seijuro
Here you go.

EDIT: You may need to alter the Category in the code below to get it to show up where you want it! For example, I changed the Category from "Ignition" to "Global Ignition Settings"

ALSO: I found that I already had the IgnTimingECUa scaling defined in my XML, so all I needed were the 2 table definitions.
Yeah, i have been trying to get my xml to work with this code. I'm using the 96350706 ROM. What ROM are you using?
Old Mar 29, 2010, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iTune
Yeah, i have been trying to get my xml to work with this code. I'm using the 96350706 ROM. What ROM are you using?
The same thing basically, I'm using 96532706 so I can use livemaps.

My 96530706 XML is attached (renamed to .txt). I don't know if it would just work for you to swap out, but maybe you can cut and paste over the code you need.

EDIT: Looking this over, I was mistaken about the scaling when I said it was already defined. I did not have it and I needed to add it. I mixed that scaling up with something else I was doing the same day for which the scaling was already defined. Oops.
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does anybody have a video of this working i think i am going to switch to v7 with speed density in the next month.
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Originally Posted by Seijuro
The same thing basically, I'm using 96532706 so I can use livemaps.

My 96530706 XML is attached (renamed to .txt). I don't know if it would just work for you to swap out, but maybe you can cut and paste over the code you need.

EDIT: Looking this over, I was mistaken about the scaling when I said it was already defined. I did not have it and I needed to add it. I mixed that scaling up with something else I was doing the same day for which the scaling was already defined. Oops.
Oh word....Thanks man! This worked wonderfully...now it's time to properly test. I'm gonna try -20 as the values and see if i can log it hitting that low, then work my way back up from there....as i feel i only really need about -17-18 or so to produce the effect i'm looking for.

BTW, i just pasted in your code into the same spots you had them in the .xml. I spent countless hours trying to get this to work properly, and eventually dicked my EcuFlash install and had to start over...haha. Your code worked like a charm. Thanks bro!
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Originally Posted by iTune
Oh word....Thanks man! This worked wonderfully...now it's time to properly test. I'm gonna try -20 as the values and see if i can log it hitting that low, then work my way back up from there....as i feel i only really need about -17-18 or so to produce the effect i'm looking for.

BTW, i just pasted in your code into the same spots you had them in the .xml. I spent countless hours trying to get this to work properly, and eventually dicked my EcuFlash install and had to start over...haha. Your code worked like a charm. Thanks bro!
Cool man glad I could help. World of difference in how fast the turbo spools at -20 vs -10. It's not nearly as violent either.
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Originally Posted by Seijuro
Cool man glad I could help. World of difference in how fast the turbo spools at -20 vs -10. It's not nearly as violent either.
Just got finished logging. Can't seem to get the ignition timing to log below -10, with the exception of a few cells(brief second). I tried a few different settings, but i edited both tables with the same values. Not sure how to get this to work properly.

Thanks again!
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where do u and how do u add the xml data?
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i can;t get it to come up in ecu flash
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EDIT: This is for 96530706 ROM ONLY!!!!

Originally Posted by Skylineracer
where do u and how do u add the xml data?
You have to be careful when you're editing your .xml, first off....

Follow the .txt that Seijuro posted up a few posts back(post #93)...make sure you copy the new code exactly like his and put it in the .xml in the exact same places in the .xml.

Open up the .txt that Seijuro Added and find the code that looks like this:

Code:
<!-- Seijuro Added -->
	<scaling name="IgnTimingECUa" units="deg" toexpr="61-x*90/256" frexpr="(61-x)*256/90" format="%.1f" min="-30" max="50" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
	<!-- /Seijuro Added -->
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Code:
<!-- Seijuro Added -->

	<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #1" category="Global Ignition Settings" address="2438" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>
	<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #2" category="Global Ignition Settings" address="173e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>

	<!-- /Seijuro Added -->
Copy this code into your .xml in the EXACT place it was in his .txt.

THIS IS ONLY FOR 96530706 ROM...no other. PLease refer to "ignition timing retard limit" thread, post #74 for other ROM info.

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Originally Posted by Skylineracer
i can;t get it to come up in ecu flash
I was just looking at your info....seems you have a IX...so, you don't want to use this code for your ECU....refer to this thread https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...d-limit-5.html post # 74 for info on your ROM..


DO NOT FLASH YOUR ECU WITH THE CODE WE POSTED....it's for a different ROM(96530706).....you can screw something up if you attempt this. Again, refer to the link above...post #74.
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Originally Posted by iTune
Just got finished logging. Can't seem to get the ignition timing to log below -10, with the exception of a few cells(brief second). I tried a few different settings, but i edited both tables with the same values. Not sure how to get this to work properly.

Thanks again!
Honestly, I didn't log it. I just gave it a test and it worked. There was a distinct difference between -10 and -20, so I didn't think about it any longer or even consider maybe it's not really at -20. I'll do a log tomorrow in the afternoon when less neighbors are home and see what my timing is like.

Here is how my ROM is set up currently.

You did enable Launch maps under the Tephra options right?

Picasa Fail, that's too small, here's a link.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

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Originally Posted by iTune
I was just looking at your info....seems you have a IX...so, you don't want to use this code for your ECU....refer to this thread https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...d-limit-5.html post # 74 for info on your ROM..


DO NOT FLASH YOUR ECU WITH THE CODE WE POSTED....it's for a different ROM(96530706).....you can screw something up if you attempt this. Again, refer to the link above...post #74.
no yeah i understood that i need to use the ix code but i can't get it to come up in ecuflash
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Originally Posted by Skylineracer
no yeah i understood that i need to use the ix code but i can't get it to come up in ecuflash
What ROM do you use?
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the tephra mod v7 for 88590015 aka 88590715


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