Speed Density IPW Drop Out on 96530006 Patch - Page 3 - EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community

Notices
EcuFlash
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Speed Density IPW Drop Out on 96530006 Patch

Reply

 
 
 
Old Nov 27, 2009, 03:25 PM
  #31  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
golruss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fuquay Varina NC
Posts: 228
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by EVO8LTW View Post
I just tried this fix. Got the car out. Drove a few miles in the problem range. Pulled over and reflashed just this change. Got back on the road and drove another 10 miles or so, deliberately trying to keep the car in the 1800-2500 rpm range.

The difference is NIGHT AND DAY!!!! I notice the difference in every gear, especially at very low parking lot speeds. I didn't even realize how much it was compromising drivability as I've only run my current cams (BF272s) with SD. What I attributed to the larger cams was just the exagerration of the SD jitter. The jitter wasn't as big of a deal with my old 280 cams (which I drove with both the MAF and in SD), but it really was a big deal with these race cams. I just didn't realize it until it was fixed.

Thanks a bunch for figuring this out!
Could u tell me how and where you put the value 255?
Thanks
golruss is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2009, 03:31 PM
  #32  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
03whitegsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,001
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by scheides View Post

<table name="MAF Pulsewidth reset (test)" category="Speed Density Tuning" address="162c" type="1D" scaling="uint16"/>
Originally Posted by golruss View Post
Could u tell me how and where you put the value 255?
Thanks
Realize this change hasn't been fully confirmed that it doesn't affect anything else.

Edit: Added to first post as even 1 page in the post is being missed.

Last edited by 03whitegsr; Nov 27, 2009 at 03:40 PM.
03whitegsr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2009, 03:40 PM
  #33  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (15)
 
xRoguex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,628
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
what else does it have the possibility to affect? what else references this table?
xRoguex is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2009, 03:42 PM
  #34  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
03whitegsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,001
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
I'm not saying it does. Mrfred is potentially looking at it to make sure it doesn't carry affects further into the rom.
03whitegsr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2009, 03:46 PM
  #35  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,550
Thanked 66 Times in 61 Posts
Originally Posted by 03whitegsr View Post
I'm not saying it does. Mrfred is potentially looking at it to make sure it doesn't carry affects further into the rom.
I'll look at it more this evening. Plan on revised SD patches being posted in my SD patch download thread.
mrfred is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2009, 03:49 PM
  #36  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
golruss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fuquay Varina NC
Posts: 228
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 03whitegsr View Post
Realize this change hasn't been fully confirmed that it doesn't affect anything else.

Edit: Added to first post as even 1 page in the post is being missed.
Thanks alot, flew right by it. Will tes tit tomorrow.
golruss is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 28, 2009, 07:35 AM
  #37  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
gear head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 333
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Frikkin' awesome..I can't wait to revisit SD.
gear head is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2009, 04:28 PM
  #38  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Slo_crx1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Simpson, PA
Posts: 821
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'll give this a test tomorrow as well. Great work guys, I don't know where the Evo community would be right now if it wasn't for all the hard work you guys pour into this stuff. I really wish I was able to help out with disassembly, but me trying to figure that stuff out at the moment is like trying to figure out what women want lol.
Slo_crx1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2009, 06:34 PM
  #39  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
03whitegsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,001
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Nah...
Women are simple.

Wives on the other hand...

^^ha ha, the kid from Utah uses "wives"
03whitegsr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2009, 06:36 PM
  #40  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Slo_crx1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Simpson, PA
Posts: 821
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 03whitegsr View Post
Nah...
Women are simple.

Wives on the other hand...

^^ha ha, the kid from Utah uses "wives"
Guess the western women aren't too bad, east coast women are brutal lol.

Anyway, solid work right here.
Slo_crx1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2009, 06:54 PM
  #41  
EvoM Moderator
iTrader: (10)
 
scheides's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 4,826
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts
It works! It works! At cruise, at any speed (specifically 1800-2800rpm) the car drives SMOOTH AS SILK! I will be logging over the next few days to verify nothing else is changed but I'm confident that this was something that only affected airflow levels at cruise.

Thank you mrfred, I'm SO HAPPY!
scheides is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2009, 07:03 PM
  #42  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (30)
 
JohnBradley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Northwest
Posts: 11,367
Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts
IX's do in fact do the same thing. It was something I thought I was going to have to live with and go from there. Some ROMs are a little less prone (the 94170015 and 8859) than others but the 9653 is so bad I have swapped 05s to 03-04 computers to get rid of the issue...or at least lessen it.
JohnBradley is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2009, 07:59 PM
  #43  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,550
Thanked 66 Times in 61 Posts
Originally Posted by JohnBradley View Post
IX's do in fact do the same thing. It was something I thought I was going to have to live with and go from there. Some ROMs are a little less prone (the 94170015 and 8859) than others but the 9653 is so bad I have swapped 05s to 03-04 computers to get rid of the issue...or at least lessen it.
Good. Helps when predictions line up with reality.
mrfred is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2009, 11:54 PM
  #44  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,550
Thanked 66 Times in 61 Posts
I've been through the subroutine in the 9653 and 8859 ROMs that determines the weighting factor for the running master load average. After looking at both subroutines, its become clear that setting the over/under value to 255 will fix the low rpm stutter, but it will limit the load-based acceleration enrichment under light-to-moderate load conditions, so this may not be the best solution.

I have found another way to stop the low load stuttering while still allowing the standard range of load-based acceleration enrichment.

1) Add the following table to your xml file:

9653 ROMs:

<table name="Scaling Factor for Transition Load" category="Speed Density Programming" address="1630" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>

8859XX15 ROMs:

<table name="Scaling Factor for Transition Load" category="Speed Density Programming" address="1230" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>

2) The value in this table should be 112. Change it to 0.

3) Set "MAF Pulse Width Reset" back to the stock value of 205.

Let me know how that works.

Last edited by mrfred; Nov 30, 2009 at 09:07 AM.
mrfred is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Nov 30, 2009, 05:52 AM
  #45  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
03whitegsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,001
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
It's interesting that you say that as I had noticed some different acceleration enrichment type behavior. I wasn't sure if it was just my mind playing tricks on me though.

I'll make the change and report back.
03whitegsr is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Speed Density IPW Drop Out on 96530006 Patch


Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.