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Old Dec 5, 2009, 12:09 PM   #31
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Remember the other thing is base pressure. You can make these virtually any size you want as long as the base pressure and pressure/flow is there out the top. At just 55psi base these are over 2400cc. I think honestly one set with something like a Magnafuel 750 drag pump should do the trick. On our 1G we are at 127% on dual 1650s (this is how AEM rates it on dual setups) which equates to 2095cc worth of fuel per cylinder at 1000whp. If you just started at 55psi base this would be roughly 86.3%IDC. Go up higher and they only get bigger. Remember these are the same CNG Bosch "2200" on the market. FIC rates with calibration fluid, ID with C16 so the numbers vary based on that (about 5% from my personal research).
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Arron when i talked to you i was told you guys have made 768whp with 1450cc but they were DONE lol and didn't recommend pushing them that hard of course.... Well i got a set thinking they would be enough for my setup and I am maxed out on E85 at 38psi with twin pumps and the 1450s.. hit 101% duty cycle last night and started leaning out!!! Id like to be able to get some more out of this setup so what injectors do u recommend now? Go for the FIC 2150s? Or?? All i run is E85 BTW.
We made 766-774 on Lucas' car with these injectors on E98. I tuned Big Jesse's car to 665 at 66% on Q16 on 1450s. Lucas was out on the 1450s and dual pump at 698 (going static out the top) but has since revised his fuel system some so it might have been stable. It had been a 255 intank feeding an 044, now its dual 044 in parallel.
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Old Dec 5, 2009, 12:32 PM   #33
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o ok good info John
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Just got off the phone with Lucas and came up with some interesting data.

His car has a DSM regulator on it right now and is at 36psi base (so far less than it really needs or can run). With that low of base pressure, the dual 044s, and the 2150s he is basically out of fuel. Crank the base up and getting the injectors back to at least 2150 or more will give him his fuel back and allow for more. It is also on straight ethanol instead of the more readily available E85 which requires more as well.
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how about full blown with High pressure walbros running 14v and fic 2150s do you think that would be good enough to get into 800s on e85?
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how much are these injectors??
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how much are these injectors??
FIC sells them for 799.99 I think.
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how about full blown with High pressure walbros running 14v and fic 2150s do you think that would be good enough to get into 800s on e85?

I think pump will be your problem with e85 and these at the high pressure your setup runs, since walbros fall off so much at high fuel pressure. The higher voltage might make it work though.....
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I told him the exact same thing, I believe for his power goals he will run out of pump on E85
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this what i was talking about
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If you are using a single feed line tim, you could always run a Bosch in line and be done, and you would be good to 1200hp
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if you are using a single feed line tim, you could always run a bosch in line and be done, and you would be good to 1200hp
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I didn't think a single in-line bosch would flow that much.
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I didn't think a single in-line bosch would flow that much.
Single 044 with a boost a pump is done at high 600s. We had to use meth to extend the fuel system (1G with 3586 on a 2.3) to get it into the 700s.

DSM25psi, Unless you can make 800whp at 30psi I am not thinking that the 255s will do it as fast they drop off. I would stick with my original estimate and say dual 044 and high base or a big single pump like I am currently using.

FIC 2150 price is 899.00 I believe but I will double check to see what MSRP is monday.
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