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Old Feb 10, 2010, 08:37 AM   #16
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For everyone who uses Lean Spool, please note that the Lean Spool off RPM setting default is 7,000 rpm, not the OEM 4,500 rpm.




EDIT: False alarm. Please disregard.

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Old Feb 10, 2010, 08:53 AM   #17
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Are you saying there is an issue with what shows up as the stock setting with this rom ???

Make sure you have address 1684 for the Lean Spool Stop RPM setting.
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Old Feb 10, 2010, 10:52 AM   #18
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THANKS ACAMUS ! !

Below are the ISCV Demand adder tables that he and I worked to make for 9417. Any not in this list are still being worked.


<table name="ISCV Demand Below 500 RPM Idle Recovery Adder (sub_1A51A)" category="ISCV Control" address="1916" type="1D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_16"/>

<table name="ISCV Demand Startup CTS Adder (sub_1AE40)" category="ISCV Control" address="42ae" type="2D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_8">
<table name="Coolant Temp" address="67a2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>

<table name="ISCV Demand General CTS Subtractor (sub_1AE6E)" category="ISCV Control" address="4372" type="2D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_8">
<table name="Coolant Temp" address="67a2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>

<table name="ISCV Demand Baro Adder (FFFF8C9A) (sub_1A61C)" category="ISCV Control" address="4339" type="2D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_8">
<table name="Baro" address="6608" type="Y Axis" elements="5" scaling="Baro16"/>
</table>

<table name="ISCV Demand RPM Adder* (sub_1B1DA)" category="ISCV Control" address="47d6" type="2D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_8">
<table name="RPM" address="635a" type="Y Axis" elements="10" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="ISCV Demand CTS Adder #1** (sub_1AC3E, sub_1B3CC, sub_1B664)" category="ISCV Control" address="4276" type="2D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_8">
<table name="Coolant Temp" address="6884" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>

<table name="ISCV Demand CTS Adder #1a*** (sub_1B424) " category="ISCV Control" address="5564" type="2D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_8">
<table name="Coolant Temp" address="6884" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>

<table name="ISCV Demand CTS Adder #1b*** (sub_1B424)" category="ISCV Control" address="4292" type="2D" level="2" scaling="ISCV_AX2_8">
<table name="Coolant Temp" address="6884" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="Temp"/>
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For everyone who uses Lean Spool, please note that the Lean Spool off RPM setting default is 7,000 rpm, not the OEM 4,500 rpm.

I'm pretty sure you are looking at the incorrect addressed "Boost Enhancement (Anti-lag) Stop RPM" which shows up at 4531 RPM. Please note that if you change this value you will stumble badly at whatever RPM you set it to (bad at redline!)
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I think Jim was referring to the "Lean Spool Stop RPM" table.

In 94170715 I removed the Boost Enhancement (anti-lag) Start and Stop RPM tables. Adjusting those table proved to enhance nothing and only create issues.
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I think Jim was referring to the "Lean Spool Stop RPM" table.

In 94170715 I removed the Boost Enhancement (anti-lag) Start and Stop RPM tables. Adjusting those table proved to enhance nothing and only create issues.
Right, I think there were an old set of definitions that incorrectly referenced the Boost Enhancement (anti-lag) Stop RPM table and the Lean Spool Stop RPM tables as the same thing.

He is probably working off an old set of definitions, as the v7 of yours I downloaded a few days ago was set to 7000 with the current/correct definitions (and 4531 with whatever old definitions I had).
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I got it working.....

I ported the evo7base xml into the 94170015 xml (taskes some time) and just linked the tephra rom with 94170015 and eliminated the link to the evo7base. Perhaps the 3 links were throwing it off in evoscan?

Care to share your uber xml??? I have to admit there are a few aspects of the evoscan maptracer that I miss. Like being able to mouse over a cell and see all of the values that have occured in that cell for the log.

The size of the bigmaps is a bummer on a netbook though. Along with the inability of being able to reestablish the xml for a given rom. Ugh.

I did notice that 94150715 <inherited>94170015</inherited> which <inherited>evo7base</inherited>.

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I did notice that 94170015 V7<inherited>94150015</inherited> which <inherited>evo7base</inherited>.

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When I took the basic 94170015 to build up 94170715. I took the premise that was done in previous v7 roms to build only 1 xml for the rom to run with. The goal was to eliminate all of the <inherited> that was being done as patches were developed.
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Sorry I misspoke. I meant to say 74170015 V7 NOT your 74170715 which has a composite xml with no inherits.

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For everyone who uses Lean Spool, please note that the Lean Spool off RPM setting default is 7,000 rpm, not the OEM 4,500 rpm.
I had understood that lean spool in the OEM 94170015 ROM was active only from 2,500 rpm to 4,531 rpm. In the 94170715 it appears to active from 2,500 rpm to 7,000 rpm.

If I'm misreading something, please advise. Thanks.




EDIT: Please disregard.

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yes it is active but all you have to do is change it back to what ever you want it at...or you can turn it off completely.
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it turns off at 7000.
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If you are using lean spool it is a good idea to raise it over your rev limit so you do not go off lean spool at the top of the rev range. It makes tuning the top end more difficult to tune if you do not.
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When I took the basic 94170015 to build up 94170715. I took the premise that was done in previous v7 roms to build only 1 xml for the rom to run with. The goal was to eliminate all of the <inherited> that was being done as patches were developed.
I build mine with just the V7 rom w/ the base rom as the inherit - this way if i open a stock rom up I have all the latest tables/patches found and then when i open a V7 rom I have everything there too. This keeps from having to build multiple rom xmls, it made more sense to me and works with evoscan.

I can post the xml i have that works with evoscan - still working on getting all the new tables found for 94170015 into it.
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If you are using lean spool it is a good idea to raise it over your rev limit so you do not go off lean spool at the top of the rev range. It makes tuning the top end more difficult to tune if you do not.
Good call.

You can see in the dyno sheets when someone has LS on and goes past the rpm cut off. The sheet will show a dip in power at top end.

I believe I may have suggested this when I wrote the Tuning with LS enabled thread.


Anyone running into any 9417 v7 "issues" ? ? ?
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