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Dylan Tenney Jul 12, 2019 06:59 AM

Whats the max timing to run on evo 8 cams?
 
Hello my names Dylan, I have a built 2.0L block with wiseco 1400d’s and manely TT rods. The head on the car is stock... Don’t ask why, im getting cams eventually. The car has all bolt ons and and running RC 1000cc injectors (yes I know I need to go bigger) Dw 350Lph fuel pump and a Shearer t3 manifold with a BW SXE-362. Im kinda interested to see what the cars going to be like on stock evo 8 cams even tho it’s gonna be absurdly laggy. Anyways Ive been tuning my own cars for awhile, does anyone know what I should not advance my timing past? Im on e85 and not pump gas but i don’t wanna do anything stupid. Thanks.

Teal2nnr Jul 12, 2019 07:07 AM

I'll let the more seasoned guys chime in. However, there is a whole timing map thread dedicated to different timing maps (admittedly some are not that great) its a good place to start. As I'm sure you know every car is going to very slightly.

Fox_IX Jul 12, 2019 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Teal2nnr (Post 11879578)
I'll let the more seasoned guys chime in. However, there is a whole timing map thread dedicated to different timing maps (admittedly some are not that great) its a good place to start. As I'm sure you know every car is going to very slightly.

Evo 8 doesn't have cam timing maps, he's probably referring to cam gear settings.
OP, ideally you should start at 0,0 and Dyno at Max advance and max retard to see what it does to your power curve. If you're gonna get cams anyway, just get cams and then tune them. Another option is to just look up what cam advance settings people are running with similar setups. This will get you in the ballpark of where you need to be.

Dylan Tenney Jul 12, 2019 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Fox_IX (Post 11879611)
Evo 8 doesn't have cam timing maps, he's probably referring to cam gear settings.
OP, ideally you should start at 0,0 and Dyno at Max advance and max retard to see what it does to your power curve. If you're gonna get cams anyway, just get cams and then tune them. Another option is to just look up what cam advance settings people are running with similar setups. This will get you in the ballpark of where you need to be.

Im running tephra v7 and there are ignition/timing maps. This is what im referring to, I still have the oem cam gears and not aftermarket adjustable ones. Maybe im the one confused but there are definintly ignition maps just like there are fuel maps.

Biggiesacks Jul 12, 2019 11:51 AM

The OEM JDM timing map is set up for better fuel then we have so I took inspiration from that when doing my E85 timing.

Fox_IX Jul 12, 2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Dylan Tenney (Post 11879613)
Im running tephra v7 and there are ignition/timing maps. This is what im referring to, I still have the oem cam gears and not aftermarket adjustable ones. Maybe im the one confused but there are definintly ignition maps just like there are fuel maps.

Cam timing is different from ignition timing. All modern EFI cars have ignition maps. Where you referring to max ignition advance? I read your post as cam timing for Evo 8.

Dylan Tenney Jul 12, 2019 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Fox_IX (Post 11879619)
Cam timing is different from ignition timing. All modern EFI cars have ignition maps. Where you referring to max ignition advance? I read your post as cam timing for Evo 8.

Yes i meant ignition advance sorry thats my bad.

Abacus Jul 12, 2019 06:41 PM

Less is more in the end. If you can rent a chassis dyno you can get your answers quickly.

These cars like 5-8 @5500 then a ramp up to 12-14 @8000 or so.

Its not how much you can run, its how well it runs per degree of timing.

Fox_IX Jul 12, 2019 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Dylan Tenney (Post 11879621)
Yes i meant ignition advance sorry thats my bad.

Ah ok, well everyone else knew what you meant so I guess it's my bad haha. Either way, sounds like you have your answer.

Teal2nnr Jul 12, 2019 09:09 PM

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