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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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TTP, STOP!!! You keep looking worse by the minute.

How the hell is that ugly rediculous looking plate going to run a belt or pump water into a block that is hardblocked?

You've been owned again, twice in one stupid picture you posted. WAKE UP!!!
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
TTP, STOP!!! You keep looking worse by the minute.

How the hell is that ugly rediculous looking plate going to run a belt or pump water into a block that is hardblocked?

You've been owned again, twice in one stupid picture you posted. WAKE UP!!!
You are correct. The passage would be filled. You got me on that one haha

You can't have hard blocking and a bypass. Its one or the other. You win!

In my defense, here is your verbatim quote:

Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I'd love to know so I can take my factory water pump off while I am running the electric pump. Yes, now get up from your desk and go look at the belt routing, you can get back to me with your apology of being ignorant after you do.
Hardblocking was not in your question, however you do run a filled block.

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
You are correct. The passage would be filled. You got me on that one haha

You can't have hard blocking and a bypass. Its one or the other. You win!
Hardblock motors feed the head with water... WOW man this really is something.. Im going to take a picture of this post above... I have yet in 2 years on here seen TTP admit they were wrong.. Thats amazing.. Your making progress...

Mike
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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You missed the rest of my point, the point was you said I don't to run the belt on the water pump with the electric pump and I lost that drag. I said, go figure out how to run power steering without the water pump on the engine and get the belt to run on the car. SO you can admit you are wrong TWICE today, go on, go look at the car and let me know how it's possible, I will tell you now it is NOT possible.

So your crying about weight savings from an electric pump AND crying about the belt not having to run on the pump and added power from that are BOTH INCORRECT.
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
You missed the rest of my point, the point was you said I don't to run the belt on the water pump with the electric pump and I lost that drag. I said, go figure out how to run power steering without the water pump on the engine and get the belt to run on the car. SO you can admit you are wrong TWICE today, go on, go look at the car and let me know how it's possible, I will tell you now it is NOT possible.

So your crying about weight savings from an electric pump AND crying about the belt not having to run on the pump and added power from that are BOTH INCORRECT.
Wow man.. I think if i was him id bail out on the thread already.. Its only getting worse the more he types..

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
You are correct. The passage would be filled. You got me on that one haha

You can't have hard blocking and a bypass. Its one or the other. You win!

In my defense, here is your verbatim quote:



Hardblocking was not in your question, however you do run a filled block.
see and you had to go back and edit the post.. why is it you had to add " well in your defense ".. you dont see you have serious issues do you??? you were doing fine with admitting you were wrong.. The 1st step to recovery is admitting you have an issue.. LOL

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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Scott needs a team mate like AWd and Buschur during debates. It's funny, today I was watching cartoons "Iron man and friends" or something like that. I noticed a similarites with the cartoon and certain threads with Buschur and co. They all come to help and will fight to the end lol
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
Scott needs a team mate like AWd and Buschur during debates. It's funny, today I was watching cartoons "Iron man and friends" or something like that. I noticed a similarites with the cartoon and certain threads with Buschur and co. They all come to help and will fight to the end lol
You mean, like when I posted this?

Originally Posted by davidbuschur

There's 10 guys in here proving you to be incorrect but you keep battling. You are worse than me on my absolute worst day.
9 of them are in cahoots with you and/or dealers of BR parts. How many were instant messaged and told to come into this thread and post comments to support you? The world will never know, but I have a good idea.

I agree with you Jeff. The cheerleading gets old and its always by same vendors who not surprisingly deal the BR line and are looking to get that extra 1% discount

Anyhow on topic. Yes and no David. I have not taken a look at the serpentine belt on the car however the point becomes moot when you reminded me that the motor is hardblocked and there is no coolant in the stock pump to push so there is little resistance or drag on the serpentine belt from the empty pump.
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
Scott needs a team mate like AWd and Buschur during debates. It's funny, today I was watching cartoons "Iron man and friends" or something like that. I noticed a similarites with the cartoon and certain threads with Buschur and co. They all come to help and will fight to the end lol
I agree, it must be very lonely when you have no support of other vendors on the forum.. Nobody in their right mind is going to help defend lies and deception.. Look thru any of the debate threads and youll see he gets 0 support from the other vendors on here.. 1 bad apple spoils the bunch..

So lets recap.. The vendors that you NEVER see accused of inflated dyno #'s.

GST Motorsports ( Mustang Dyno )
AMS ( DynoJet )
Buschur ( Mustang Dyno )
AWD ( Dyno Jet )
CBRD ( Mustang Dyno )
STM ( Mustang Dyno )
REESE Tuning ( Mustang Dyno )
Iveytune ( Dynojet )
Nolimit ( DynoDynamics )

The Vendors you ALWAYS see accused of Inflated #'s..

TTP ( Mustang Dyno )
DG Motors ( Dyno Dynamics ) - Now no longer a vendor and Busted Inflating #'s

How can this be that ALWAYS 2 vendors are the topic of discussion amongst Members and other Vendors?? How can this be?? Conspiracy Theory? We are all in cahoots as said by TTP?? Can anyone explain this to me??? Thanks!!

Mike
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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This thread should be locked. It's not going anywhere. It was a great post by Lucas, but it sure failed fast.

Michael
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ETS Michael
This thread should be locked. It's not going anywhere. It was a great post by Lucas, but it sure failed fast.

Michael
I agree with you..
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
I agree, it must be very lonely when you have no support of other vendors on the forum.. Nobody in their right mind is going to help defend lies and deception.. Look thru any of the debate threads and youll see he gets 0 support from the other vendors on here.. 1 bad apple spoils the bunch..

So lets recap.. The vendors that you NEVER see accused of inflated dyno #'s.

GST Motorsports ( Mustang Dyno)
Buschur ( Mustang Dyno )
CBRD ( Mustang Dyno )
STM ( Mustang Dyno )
REESE Tuning ( Mustang Dyno )
The whole dyno manipulation controversy was started by YOU as evidenced by the slander videos YOU made about our company elsewhere. There is absolutely no truth in your slander campaign. Our dyno has been calibrated by MD and unchanged since 2008.

Now that the low reading Dyno Dynamics has been removed from the group and since the Dynojets are simple devices with no computer controlled load cell, we are left with 5 Mustang Dynos.

Buschur ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR OWNED RUNS BR ENGINES
STM ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR DEALER RUNS BR ENGINES
REESE Tuning ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR DEALER RUNS BR ENGINES
CBRD ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR DEALER / BUSCHUR DEALS CBRD PRODUCTS
GST Motorsports ( Mustang Dyno) HAVE BEEN SENT UNSOLICITED HARASSING PM'S FROM BRYAN@GST CONSISTANTLY FOR MONTHS. MODS CAN CHECK MY PM BOX AS THERE ARE STILL SOME THERE.

There are plenty of dyno's that do NOT deal BR products that are welcome to chime in regarding our dyno.

MD-AWD-500 FL Dynamometers NOT dealing BR products:
Japtrix
Central Florida Turbo
Aerocomp Racing
Harbor Nissan
Samarai-Speed Racing

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The whole dyno manipulation controversy was started by YOU as evidenced by the slander videos YOU made about our company elsewhere. There is absolutely no truth in your slander campaign. Our dyno has been calibrated by MD and unchanged since 2008.

Now that the low reading Dyno Dynamics has been removed from the group and since the Dynojets are simple devices with no computer controlled load cell, we are left with 5 Mustang Dynos.

Buschur ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR OWNED RUNS BR ENGINES
STM ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR DEALER RUNS BR ENGINES
REESE Tuning ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR DEALER RUNS BR ENGINES
CBRD ( Mustang Dyno ) BUSCHUR DEALER / BUSCHUR DEALS CBRD PRODUCTS
GST Motorsports ( Mustang Dyno) HAVE BEEN SENT UNSOLICITED HARASSING PM'S FROM BRYAN@GST CONSISTANTLY FOR MONTHS. MODS CAN CHECK MY PM BOX AS THERE ARE STILL SOME THERE.
I dont know what you Speak of slander campaign???

Ok so let me go further on..

Shops that are never accused of inflated dyno #'s with inflatable dyno are... I dont know them all but i might make a poll in another thread asking which shops have which dyno to confirm who has what dyno..

Nolimit motorsports ( not a BR affiliate, Dyno Dynamics )
Central Florida Turbo ( Not a BR Affiliate , Mustang Dyno )
GST ( Not a BR Affiliate , Mustang Dyno )

Why is it you feel you are the topic of dyno inflation discussion always?? Is everyone out to get you??? What does who deals with BR have to do with being accused of inflation.. NONE OF THE SHOPS I LISTED ARE EVER ACCUSED.. Is it Odd???

Mike

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
So this would mean that with 621whp on TTP's dyno shauns car would run 9.7@144mph.. I just dont understand how much clearer it can be that TTP's dyno is inflated.. The only 1 person in the entire forum that is missing this is TTP..

Shauns car has every single thing in it for the most part.. full exhaust, full SE se interior, full a/c, power steering, and the list goes on and on.. The car ran 9's on pass #1 and pass#2 and thats all we ever ran it.. Scott do you care to explain how this is possible with 140whp less than your car and HEAVIER than your car that it ran that?? YES HEAVIER THAN YOUR CAR.. its a GSR not RS..
Can i please have an explanation on this one that you skipped over???

Thanks!!

Mike
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
I dont know what you Speak of slander campaign???

Why is it you feel you are the topic of dyno inflation discussion always?? Is everyone out to get you???

Mike
I think this thread has had enough of your off-topic baiting gamesmanship and propaganda. We are done here. Cheer on.

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Propaganda is neutrally defined as a systematic form of purposeful persuasion that attempts to influence the emotions, attitudes, opinions, and actions of specified target audiences for ideological, political or commercial purposes through the controlled transmission of one-sided messages (which may or may not be factual) via mass and direct media channels."
Outside of discussion on weather correction, there is no more to discuss and further drifting is not worth infraction points.



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