Evo IX The shop built 2.3L Super99 Magnus v5 E85 Wastegate pressure
Dec 8, 2013, 11:39 AM
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How hard would you push it on 93 octane? I'd have imagined one wouldn't go over (if even as high as) 30psi on 93, and this is hitting that boost in the low 5000rpm range punching in from 4500rpm.... going by that I'm reckoning this turbo would match or better a 6266 for at least 2000rpm of the rev range. The fun 2000+rpm 
Jan 3, 2014, 08:05 AM
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Well you live in CT, I have to go through emission and it wont pass with the AEM 
So I needed a tune to drive and go through emissions. Tom was nice enough to help me out with this.
The Stock ecu is blah.. not for me I have been racing for too long. I like direct control of fuel and precision of timing. At this Horsepower level I don't feel comfortable having to try and trick the Stock ECU. I'm gonna go back to the AEM but the V2 this time since it had even more control then the V1.
So I needed a tune to drive and go through emissions. Tom was nice enough to help me out with this.The Stock ecu is blah.. not for me I have been racing for too long. I like direct control of fuel and precision of timing. At this Horsepower level I don't feel comfortable having to try and trick the Stock ECU. I'm gonna go back to the AEM but the V2 this time since it had even more control then the V1.
Jan 3, 2014, 09:16 AM
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The stock ecu is fine at high power levels. It did just fine with my new setup which is a very big setup. I tune everything, so i don't favor one over the other, but i am still on the stock ecu in my personal car which is now a much different setup. It would be nice if it logged more data though in a run.
Jan 3, 2014, 04:44 PM
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Power level has nothing to do with it. When I used to live in NY all I had to do was go to a place that doesn't do a visual and only checks the ECU and I pass. The beauty of stock ECU.
Jan 4, 2014, 12:45 PM
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The stock ecu is fine at high power levels. It did just fine with my new setup which is a very big setup. I tune everything, so i don't favor one over the other, but i am still on the stock ecu in my personal car which is now a much different setup. It would be nice if it logged more data though in a run.
The stock ecu is considerably more advanced than the V2 AEM and would be comparable to the AEM infinity both hardware and software wise. Unfortunately, the OEM ecu doesn't have user interface software that can exploit the capabilities of the ecu.
The virtual dyno is about worthless at this level with the standard data logging rate. There is so much phase shift in that graph due to filtering, low sample rate, and computation method that the numbers are probably completely useless.
No doubt the car makes power though and 30psi around 5500RPM isn't terrible.
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Jan 6, 2014, 11:07 AM
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You just need to use DMA logging.
The stock ecu is considerably more advanced than the V2 AEM and would be comparable to the AEM infinity both hardware and software wise. Unfortunately, the OEM ecu doesn't have user interface software that can exploit the capabilities of the ecu.
The virtual dyno is about worthless at this level with the standard data logging rate. There is so much phase shift in that graph due to filtering, low sample rate, and computation method that the numbers are probably completely useless.
No doubt the car makes power though and 30psi around 5500RPM isn't terrible.
The stock ecu is considerably more advanced than the V2 AEM and would be comparable to the AEM infinity both hardware and software wise. Unfortunately, the OEM ecu doesn't have user interface software that can exploit the capabilities of the ecu.
The virtual dyno is about worthless at this level with the standard data logging rate. There is so much phase shift in that graph due to filtering, low sample rate, and computation method that the numbers are probably completely useless.
No doubt the car makes power though and 30psi around 5500RPM isn't terrible.
As far as being more powerful in regards to the vehicle itself and the ability to control the sensors and fail safes and all the actual coding in it, yes it probably is in that regard.
I use 9417 rom on my personal car, but could easily convert the car to 9653 with no issues, but i dont like the fact DMA cant be used regularly and requires its own programs to run / tune/log with.
You need that live mapping tool correct? Which from what I've seen was buggy the last time i played with it.
Actually considering I've tuned a lot of cars with vd and evoscan i can tell when somethings not legit or accurate these days and these results are not to far off at all or i wouldn't have posted them.
It has a lot to do with the computer being used to data log also. I get a lot more sample rates when i use a fast laptop vs slow. memory, cpu, hard drive, mobo, if all are quick there should be no issue keeping up even with evoscan.
Slow laptops such as netbooks make the graph look super smooth at smoothing 1, while on a faster machine the graph may look completely different and not smooth at all. That's why smoothing means nothing with VD, because we have no idea what computer its coming from. a smoothing of 6 should never be advertised though without showing a smoothing of minimal 2-3 to verify that result is not inflated and over smoothed to hide the spikes.
From what ive seen, DMA doesnt log even 50% of the data AEM can in a run.
In the perspective of stock ecu being more powerful in regards to the actual control of the vehicle and its sensors and all the fail safes it has, i agree.
I believe its a 102lb/min turbo, so yes it should support 1000whp no problem with alot of boost. To reach that on this setup im guessing it would take somewhere around 60psi.
Jan 13, 2014, 01:44 PM
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Not overly surprising, really 
I'm surprised people even use the likes of PT6466/6766 on 'street' EVOs... they are quite large turbos. The Super99 doesn't seem like a great match for a <94 octane 4cylinder to me.
I'm surprised people even use the likes of PT6466/6766 on 'street' EVOs... they are quite large turbos. The Super99 doesn't seem like a great match for a <94 octane 4cylinder to me.
