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boostedawd Apr 8, 2008 04:50 PM

Audio Guru's...Tell me what I have/need/missing...
 
Ok, so i bought my evo used. I have no clue about the evo's sound system, but apparently this guy replaced some stuff. When i bought it, it had the amp's removed.

(passenger side)
Here is the pic of the tweeter...umm both of them. :confused:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0408081859.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0408081900.jpg


Here is the pic of the rear coaxials....

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0408081900a.jpg
what is that plug and why is it unplugged?


Here is a bundle of wires in my trunk...
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0408081903a.jpg

Looks like 4 wire sets (white/black, green/black, purple/black and gray/black) + 2 sets of rca cables.


and here is the pic of how i wired my sub amp.

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0408081904.jpg

left and right bridged, power, ground, rca cable, and remote wire.


Sorry for the size and quality of pics. they were done with my cell phone.

So what am i missing? And why isn't my amp working (this is another thread that i made). I think i have kappa 63.7i's in the back. Don't know the rest, especially the one in the door panel.

I have a pioneer deh-80mp headunit (60w). Everything works (except for the sub of course). im wondering how in the crap is everything working when the wires are just out like that and there is no amp powering the speakers.

Here is a bottom view of my rear coax.







http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0408081903.jpg




Any help is appreciated. Thanks

-Dan

SCEvol8 Apr 8, 2008 07:11 PM

Top picture is a picture of the stock tweeter.

boostedawd Apr 8, 2008 07:26 PM

yeah i figured. its the crappiest of the bunch.

LayinLo Apr 8, 2008 07:49 PM

Top is factory tweet. It is worthless. Unplug it if you are getting sound from the tweeter in the door.

From what I can tell, the third pic (rear deck speaker) is just tapped off the factory speaker. Are you getting sound from it? The fourth pic shows the wires that look like they were wired from a 4 channel to amp your door speakers and rear deck.

The amp looks like you have the remote turn on plugged in to a high level input and not the remote turn on terminal. I need to see a better pic of the wholle set of terminals to make a better determination. Do you have a fuse in line to your amp? If so check to make sure the fuse is in and in good working order.



So the amp is not working but the other speakers are? No sub? If you have one, how is it wired?

boostedawd Apr 8, 2008 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by LayinLo (Post 5518120)
Top is factory tweet. It is worthless. Unplug it if you are getting sound from the tweeter in the door.

From what I can tell, the third pic (rear deck speaker) is just tapped off the factory speaker. Are you getting sound from it? The fourth pic shows the wires that look like they were wired from a 4 channel to amp your door speakers and rear deck.

The amp looks like you have the remote turn on plugged in to a high level input and not the remote turn on terminal. I need to see a better pic of the wholle set of terminals to make a better determination. Do you have a fuse in line to your amp? If so check to make sure the fuse is in and in good working order.



So the amp is not working but the other speakers are? No sub? If you have one, how is it wired?


Its def. hooked up to the remote connection on the amp. sorry...its a bad pic.

I am getting sound from all speakers except factory tweet.

If i get a 4 channel amp, would they be already wired to run of off it? or would i have to remove the factory connection?

I have a fuse intact and brand new.

And you are correct. The amp is not powering up but the other speakers are. The amp powers the sub only. It is wired as you see it. Power, ground, remote wire, left-right bridged and rca's going in.

LayinLo Apr 12, 2008 08:53 AM

Sorry, but would you mind taking a few more pics so I can help you better. At least get me one of the whole front of the wired amp and a better pic of the remote turn-on terminal.

Another thought: did you run the remote turn-on wire yourself? What is it connected to? The factory deck somewhere or aftermarket HU?



About a 4 channel, you should be able to use those loose RCA's and connect it and it will work fine. If you'll notice, the braided green and black wire is ready to be wired in to an amp it is already going to one of the speakers.


Someone left you a big mess. I wish I was closer to come see for myself and help you clean this up. I'll do what I can from here. We have some good installers on the forum so maybe they can chime in after we see some more pics.

boostedawd Apr 22, 2008 03:14 AM

Well, i tried to tackle this job on my own and i need some help guys...


Ok, so it was previously tapped off the factory wiring system. Since i have a 4chan amp now, i want to use it to power the speakers. But i think i've run the leads wrong.

Let me give you guys some background info first so that you guys can help me out more.

First: The car used to have a 4 chan amp. Now it doesn't. The HU is powering the speakers using the stock wiring system. So imagine a car with compenents in the back and front running off the factory wiring.

Second: I want to put a 4chan amp in the car again.

Question: How do i run the speaker leads? Do i remove the leads from the factory harness. Then tap the ones coming from the HU into the amp?

OR

Do I leave the leads in the factory harness, and tap the ones from the amp into it?

Im kinda confused and would like some help.

Here are some pics for you guys to make a proper assesment.

boostedawd Apr 22, 2008 03:15 AM

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0422080128.jpg



This is what the back of the headunit looked like when i first took it out. The only thing i did was remove the harness, which you can see (two white things) on top and on bottom.

boostedawd Apr 22, 2008 03:20 AM

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0422080546.jpg


This is when i removed the leads from the harness of factory wiring.


http://filebox.vt.edu/users/chkim2/0422080546a.jpg



This is when i took those leads and crimped then to the speaker wires run throughout the car (which i assume is running to my speakers.)

Well, i tried it...and i get no sound. The amp powers up fine, no shorts or anything. But i get ZERO sound. which makes me think i ran the leads incorrectly.

boostedawd Apr 22, 2008 03:22 AM

Question:

How am i supposed to run two amps with only one remote wire coming from the back of the headunit? Does that remote wire run both a sub amp and speaker amp? Do i just split it and make it go to two amps?

biggie5252 Apr 22, 2008 08:55 AM

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Check out the pics. This is based off the assumption that the colored speaker wires in the dash are the same wires found in the trunk. Don't connect the speaker leads coming out of the headunit. Just tape them off. And yes all you have to do is split the remote turn-on lead to both amps. Hope this helps.

biggie5252 Apr 22, 2008 08:59 AM

You can also try hooking up a AA battery to the speaker leads. Hold one of the wires on the negative side of the battery and tap the other lead to the positive side of the battery and if there are any speakers conncected you should hear them make a popping/static noise.

You actually should try doing this to all the speaker wires showing (the set hanging in the dash, the set coming out of the harness, and the set in the trunk) prior to doing what I showed in the above post to find out for sure which wires are hooked up to what.

mrdecrypter Apr 24, 2008 08:23 PM

i have the SSL package. The mids are mediocre and the sub seems underpowered. but i am a SPL junkie though.

The remote wire can be used to power two amps. It is just a low voltage signal wire.

SRTRaceR04 Apr 28, 2008 07:14 PM

Heres a pic of how you should wire the car, and if the previous owner took the vehicle to a semi reputable shop, then those colored twisted wires should be as followed:
white/black- front left
grey/black- front right
green/black- rear left
purple/black- rear right

these wires were probably left attached to the speakers, but if not, then you will have to reattatch the aftermarket wires. The color is the positive ( the fat spade) the black is the negative(this spade). You need a headunit with 3 sets of RCA pre outs,front, rear, mono(sub). if you have that, then wire it as followed:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40...ns/diagram.jpg
sorry for the crude drawing, done quickly. Now take into account if you have the proper power wire. You can either run 2 power wires, or run a thicker guage back, and split it at a distribution block. keep in mine the wire running back will need to be twice as thick as the wire you want to go into the amps. if you want 4 guage intp the amp, then 2 guage will need to be ran back, if you want 8 guage, then 4 will need to be ran to the block. Make sure your ground wire is as thick as the power wire, I don't know how often I see people come in with 2 guage power wire, and 10 guage ground. ground is important. if you need anything else, I'll do my best to help.

SRTRaceR04 Apr 28, 2008 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by mrdecrypter (Post 5586342)
i have the SSL package. The mids are mediocre and the sub seems underpowered. but i am a SPL junkie though.

The remote wire can be used to power two amps. It is just a low voltage signal wire.

The votage is the same as any aftermarket wire, which is 12.6. if you're getting anything less, move your source. though your amp only needs to see the voltage from the remote line, if it's getting less than 12.6, this means it could be tapped into something that you don't want tapped into ( like your airbag lines)


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