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johnjonfenomeno Aug 17, 2008 12:03 AM

DIY: Viper 5701 Install on CT9A
 
I thought this might be useful to some people interested in installing vipers new 5701 alarm.

http://www.drdetailshop.com/Viper5701Boxmed.gif

What I like about this alarm system
2 remotes - Super slim design (One 5-Button 2-way, One 5-Button 1-way)
Antenna with Integrated LED and Switch
SilentMode2 Sirenless Modes
Virtual Tach
Defroster Output w/ Dedicated Channel
Smart Start (start car based on temp/timer/voltage)
Auto Temp Display on Remote
Cabin Temperature Request
Onboard Shock Sensor (shock sensor is inside main unit Stinger DoubleGuard )
4 Aux Outputs
2,000 feet FCC legal 2-way range

The best thing about this is the protection it provides for remote starting the vehicle. It has a very good check system to make sure the car is in neutral before going into the remote start mode. The only way to have it remote start is if someone sneaks into your vehicle without triggering the alarm and physically leaves it in gear. Or if you leave someone in the vehicle while arming and they put it in gear.

Additional Items needed for purchase
-SPDT Relay with socket harness

Okay now onto the wiring...
- Unlike previous viper models the heavy guage ignition harness is a little bit trickier due to the flex relay added into this unit, but just follow my ignition wiring below and you should be okay.
- If you open the compartment inside the brain unit you see that there is a spot for a 10amp mini bus fuse. This has to be hooked up for a positive polarity pg.55 of install manual

The ignition wires consist of these wires
Function ------- polarity----------------Vehicle Wire
Constant------------ + -------------------- white
Ignition-------------- + -------------------- blk/wht
Accessory----------- + --------------------- blu/wht
Accessory 2--------- + ---------------------- blu/blk
Starter--------------- + ---------------------- blk/yel


Harness #3 all located in ignition black plug
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire
(+)Ignition 1Input/ouput ----------------------- pink -------------------------- blk/wht
(30a Fused Igntion 2/ Flex relay Input 87--- red/wht------------------------- wht
Accessory Output----------------------------------orange--------------------------blu/wht
(+) Starter Output (car side starter kill wire)---violet--------------------------blk/yel (S)
(+) Starter Input (key side starter Kill wire)---green-------------------------blk/yel (k)
(+)fused(30a) Ignition Input-----------------------red----------------------------wht
(+)Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output-------------------pnk/wht----------------------blu/blk
Flex Relay input 87a key side(if req) of Flx Relay--pink/blk-------------------not connected
Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter Input---------------red/blk---------------------wht


Harness #1
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
Trunk release for after market solenoid----RED/WHITE----------------------need to wire to relay for aftermarket solenoid
power for alarm system------------------------RED------------------------------wht------------------------------ign harness
siren output-------------------------------------BROWN-------------------------red wire on siren---------------siren lead
not used --------------------------------------- WHITE/BROWN----------------not used--------------------------not used
alarm ground ----------------------------------BLACK---------------------------chasis------------------------------ground
not used ----------------------------------VIOLET--------------------------not used--------------------------not used
trunk trigger -----------------------------------BLUE-----------------------------green/orange------------------trunk
Door Trigger Input ---------------------------Green-----------------------------blue-------------------------------Instrument cluster Blue plug
DOME LIGHT OUTPUT------------------------BLACK/WHITE -------------------?------------------------------------?
not used -------------------------------------- WHITE/BLUE ---------------------not used-------------------------not used
PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT---------------------WHITE----------------------------green/white----------------------door kick panel
not used ---------------------------------------ORANGE--------------------------not used--------------------------not used

Harness #2
not used

Door Lock Harness
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
UNLOCK OUTPUT---------------------------------Blue-----------------------------light green --------------------door kick panel
LOCK OUTPUT-------------------------------------Green--------------------------violet ---------------------------door kick panel

Remote Start Input
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT--------------BLACK/WHITE---------------Blue/Red-------------------------Instrument cluster blue plug
TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE----------------------VIOLET/WHITE--------------Green----------------------------Instrument cluster white plug
BRAKE SHUTDOWN WIRE ---------------------- BROWN------------------------ Green-------------------------Door Kick Panel
HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT --------------------- GRAY --------------------------Lead from Hood Pin --------Installed hood Pin switch in Hood
REAR DEFOGGER -------------------------------- BLUE/WHITE -----------------White/Black------------------Climate control plug at switch

Remote Start Ouput
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
not used -----------------------------------------PINK/WHITE--------------------not used------------------------not used
not used -----------------------------------------ORANGE-------------------------not used------------------------not used
Output to clutch bypass ----------------------VIOLET--------------------------clutch switch behind clutch pedal (must be hooked to SPDT relay)
not used -----------------------------------------PINK -----------------------------not used-----------------------not used
not used -----------------------------------------BLUE -----------------------------not used-----------------------not used


When splicing wires, In my opinion this is the best way to do it.
http://www.mmxpress.com/technical/images/14.gif
Then split the wire threading through the loop and wrap it around the corresponding side fo the split wire, solder then high quality electrical tape.
....will update later with remaining instructions

biggie5252 Aug 17, 2008 09:31 PM

Remote Start Input
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT--------------BLACK/WHITE---------------Blue/Red-------------------------Instrument cluster blue plug

This actually exists/functions in an evo?

johnjonfenomeno Aug 18, 2008 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by biggie5252 (Post 6019077)
Remote Start Input
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT--------------BLACK/WHITE---------------Blue/Red-------------------------Instrument cluster blue plug

This actually exists/functions in an evo?

Its actually linked to the hand brake.. Its part of the signal input that needs to be recieved in order for the remote start sequence to start. Place foot on brake, apply hand brake, release foot from brake, press rs button, open door, close door, then arm the vehicle. This is a way the system knows your vehicle is in neutral and enables the rs when the button is pressed. Any type of full trigger will disable the rs activity. As well as disarming then opening the door.. Pretty failsafe..

biggie5252 Aug 18, 2008 04:47 AM

Yeah, I was hoping to get around all that and just use an NSS. I leave the car in neutral anyways, I was just wanting a backup incase it wasn't in neutral for whatever reason.

Dorikun Aug 28, 2008 10:16 AM

What does it sound like, does it sound like the alarm system on a super car?

johnjonfenomeno Aug 28, 2008 02:19 PM

^^ just the standard tone on all DEI alarms.. I bought it more for the remote start safety feature..

RUDEBOY77 Aug 29, 2008 10:36 AM

johnjonfenomeno,

On a scale of 1-10, how would to rate ease of install of the 5701?



Originally Posted by johnjonfenomeno (Post 6016781)
I thought this might be useful to some people interested in installing vipers new 5701 alarm.

http://www.drdetailshop.com/Viper5701Boxmed.gif

What I like about this alarm system
2 remotes - Super slim design (One 5-Button 2-way, One 5-Button 1-way)
Antenna with Integrated LED and Switch
SilentMode2 Sirenless Modes
Virtual Tach
Defroster Output w/ Dedicated Channel
Smart Start (start car based on temp/timer/voltage)
Auto Temp Display on Remote
Cabin Temperature Request
Onboard Shock Sensor (shock sensor is inside main unit Stinger DoubleGuard )
4 Aux Outputs
2,000 feet FCC legal 2-way range

The best thing about this is the protection it provides for remote starting the vehicle. It has a very good check system to make sure the car is in neutral before going into the remote start mode. The only way to have it remote start is if someone sneaks into your vehicle without triggering the alarm and physically leaves it in gear. Or if you leave someone in the vehicle while arming and they put it in gear.

Additional Items needed for purchase
-SPDT Relay with socket harness

Okay now onto the wiring...
- Unlike previous viper models the heavy guage ignition harness is a little bit trickier due to the flex relay added into this unit, but just follow my ignition wiring below and you should be okay.
- If you open the compartment inside the brain unit you see that there is a spot for a 10amp mini bus fuse. This has to be hooked up for a positive polarity pg.55 of install manual

The ignition wires consist of these wires
Function ------- polarity----------------Vehicle Wire
Constant------------ + -------------------- white
Ignition-------------- + -------------------- blk/wht
Accessory----------- + --------------------- blu/wht
Accessory 2--------- + ---------------------- blu/blk
Starter--------------- + ---------------------- blk/yel


Harness #3 all located in ignition black plug
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire
(+)Ignition 1Input/ouput ----------------------- pink -------------------------- blk/wht
(30a Fused Igntion 2/ Flex relay Input 87--- red/wht------------------------- wht
Accessory Output----------------------------------orange--------------------------blu/wht
(+) Starter Output (car side starter kill wire)---violet--------------------------blk/yel (S)
(+) Starter Input (key side starter Kill wire)---green-------------------------blk/yel (k)
(+)fused(30a) Ignition Input-----------------------red----------------------------wht
(+)Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output-------------------pnk/wht----------------------blu/blk
Flex Relay input 87a key side(if req) of Flx Relay--pink/blk-------------------not connected
Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter Input---------------red/blk---------------------wht


Harness #1
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
Trunk release for after market solenoid----RED/WHITE----------------------need to wire to relay for aftermarket solenoid
power for alarm system------------------------RED------------------------------wht------------------------------ign harness
siren output-------------------------------------BROWN-------------------------red wire on siren---------------siren lead
not used --------------------------------------- WHITE/BROWN----------------not used--------------------------not used
alarm ground ----------------------------------BLACK---------------------------chasis------------------------------ground
not used ----------------------------------VIOLET--------------------------not used--------------------------not used
trunk trigger -----------------------------------BLUE-----------------------------green/orange------------------trunk
Door Trigger Input ---------------------------Green-----------------------------blue-------------------------------Instrument cluster Blue plug
DOME LIGHT OUTPUT------------------------BLACK/WHITE -------------------?------------------------------------?
not used -------------------------------------- WHITE/BLUE ---------------------not used-------------------------not used
PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT---------------------WHITE----------------------------green/white----------------------door kick panel
not used ---------------------------------------ORANGE--------------------------not used--------------------------not used

Harness #2
not used

Door Lock Harness
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
UNLOCK OUTPUT---------------------------------Blue-----------------------------light green --------------------door kick panel
LOCK OUTPUT-------------------------------------Green--------------------------violet ---------------------------door kick panel

Remote Start Input
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT--------------BLACK/WHITE---------------Blue/Red-------------------------Instrument cluster blue plug
TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE----------------------VIOLET/WHITE--------------Green----------------------------Instrument cluster white plug
BRAKE SHUTDOWN WIRE ---------------------- BROWN------------------------ Green-------------------------Door Kick Panel
HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT --------------------- GRAY --------------------------Lead from Hood Pin --------Installed hood Pin switch in Hood
REAR DEFOGGER -------------------------------- BLUE/WHITE -----------------White/Black------------------Climate control plug at switch

Remote Start Ouput
Function--------------------------------------- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire--------------------location
not used -----------------------------------------PINK/WHITE--------------------not used------------------------not used
not used -----------------------------------------ORANGE-------------------------not used------------------------not used
Output to clutch bypass ----------------------VIOLET--------------------------clutch switch behind clutch pedal (must be hooked to SPDT relay)
not used -----------------------------------------PINK -----------------------------not used-----------------------not used
not used -----------------------------------------BLUE -----------------------------not used-----------------------not used

....will update later with remaining instructions


johnjonfenomeno Aug 29, 2008 11:23 AM

If you follow the above mentioned wire by wire guide .. its a walk in the park .. Ive done the figuring out for you.. Shops charge 700 installed for this. Go on ebay and get one for 250 shipped. Then follow the above

RUDEBOY77 Aug 29, 2008 04:48 PM

Sounds good! Thanks 4 your time and info!


Originally Posted by johnjonfenomeno (Post 6062634)
If you follow the above mentioned wire by wire guide .. its a walk in the park .. Ive done the figuring out for you.. Shops charge 700 installed for this. Go on ebay and get one for 250 shipped. Then follow the above


johnjonfenomeno Aug 29, 2008 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by RUDEBOY77 (Post 6063640)
Sounds good! Thanks 4 your time and info!

Might I add, One thing I did not have to do was get an immobilizer bypass (DEI 556U) since i used a standalone ecu. If you are still on the stock ECU you will need this along with a spare key.

EVOLex Aug 29, 2008 08:24 PM

This alarm is the best investment I've made to my Evo. Good choice!

biggie5252 Aug 29, 2008 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by johnjonfenomeno (Post 6063985)
Might I add, One thing I did not have to do was get an immobilizer bypass (DEI 556U) since i used a standalone ecu. If you are still on the stock ECU you will need this along with a spare key.

If you're on the stock ecu, you can get a pku-mit and you don't need to sacrifice a second key. You do need to have both keys to program it though, at least that's what the instructions say. It runs about $40 from what I've seen.

Dennis F Aug 30, 2008 02:53 AM

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johnjonfenomeno Aug 31, 2008 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Dennis F (Post 6064611)
This is not intended for a 5 or 6 speed car. This is actually a circuit for automatics for the neutral safety switch.

Unless DEI changed their programming of this circuit, it is not intended for anything else other then an automatic.


Yes DEI changed their programming with it.. The alarm can be set in manual or auto mode.. If in manual mode the alarm will use this as a part of the input in its neutral safety check sequence..{thumbup}

bso Sep 1, 2008 02:24 AM

Question about the install: How were you taping into the factory wires? Solder or plastic taps? lastly, where did hide the alarm brain?


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