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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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Question injector duty and % upgrade

i just got in the greddy profect e-01 and e-manage. these things are BAD ***!!! i highly recomend them. the emanage says it can controll aftermarket injectors up to "150% larger than factory" injectors. does this mean the 560 cc present in the evo 8 can be upgraded to 1395 cc'c, or is it 840cc's?

anyways, this combo also controlls ignition timing and secondary injectors. many other things also, but it data logs also, which is a great thing.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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My guess is it will hold up to 840cc not 150% on top of the injectors 560cc. Ask claudius he'd probley know.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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550's should be good to 350+ if tuned correctly. Shouldnt be any need for anything higher unless your rebuilding the engine.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Guack007
My guess is it will hold up to 840cc not 150% on top of the injectors 560cc. Ask claudius he'd probley know.
i called greddy, they said its 150% on top of 560 cc... so the emanage can hold up to 1300 cc injecotrs on the evo
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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Are you gonna mod your EVO as soon as you get it?? That's ***** man... God forbid your EVO was made on a Friday!! It might not last..
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Are you gonna mod your EVO as soon as you get it?? That's ***** man... God forbid your EVO was made on a Friday!! It might not last..
yeah, im ganna mod it about 1100-1200 miles after i get it just to make sure its broken in properly.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:21 AM
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yeah, im ganna mod it about 1100-1200 miles after i get it just to make sure its broken in properly.
Do us a favor though... get some times out of it COMPLETELY stock!!!

In fact, maybe take some time to get to know the car so you can get the best times out of it stock as possible!!!

I know with a competent AWD driver, the car is a low to mid 13 second car (depending on driver/conditions like elevation and track, weather).

EDIT: I see that you own a TT, so I have faith in your abilities to bust some good times out of the EVO stock!

Last edited by Turboniam; Feb 22, 2003 at 02:37 AM.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:27 AM
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He's gotten some impressive times with that Stealth too. I can only assume you haven't had a chance to hook up the e-manage or e01. When you do, please let us/me know how the interface is? I've been reading and hearing a lot about it and I'm curious to get a normal but educated tuner's opinion.

Can't wait to see your Evolution when you get it. I have a feeling you're going to be one of the faster cats out there from these forums. Best of luck to ya!
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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Are you gonna mod your EVO as soon as you get it?? That's ***** man... God forbid your EVO was made on a Friday!! It might not last..
Don't worry work on Sat. too We have a 6-day week.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by HobieKopek
He's gotten some impressive times with that Stealth too. I can only assume you haven't had a chance to hook up the e-manage or e01. When you do, please let us/me know how the interface is? I've been reading and hearing a lot about it and I'm curious to get a normal but educated tuner's opinion.

Can't wait to see your Evolution when you get it. I have a feeling you're going to be one of the faster cats out there from these forums. Best of luck to ya!
the engine in the stealth impressed me, the clutch and wieght didnt. im ganna definatyl get some stock times in for the evo, and then mod it out. the greddy profect and emanage should work really nicely. i hope to be getting a name for myself, and the evo across the east coast by the end of the summer. im ganna race it, and show it every chance i get.
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by Turboniam


Do us a favor though... get some times out of it COMPLETELY stock!!!

In fact, maybe take some time to get to know the car so you can get the best times out of it stock as possible!!!

I know with a competent AWD driver, the car is a low to mid 13 second car (depending on driver/conditions like elevation and track, weather).


I think everyone is over estimating what the stock EVO can perform on the track. Low to mid 13s are extremely fast for a street car. I think a more realistic figure would be low 14s stock. Maybe it's because I do all my drag racing in the Vegas desert, but getting a car into the 13s required some serious *****. 271 HP probably will not get it done. More power to anyone who can do it.

What did Motor Trend publish that the EVO ran in the quarter? I always tack on an additional .30 seconds on their time because they used a professional driver at sea level, and best time out of around 20 runs.

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by JeffGST
I think everyone is over estimating what the stock EVO can perform on the track. Low to mid 13s are extremely fast for a street car.
I'm not trying to be rude in anyway, but maybe where you are at, that is true... here in Texas, low to mid 13s means you probably just did some minor mods to whatever car you have or it is stock (not including rice!) .

Examples of stock car and 1/4 times:
LS1s = mid to high 13
Mustang GT= high 13 low 14
DSM BPU= mid to high 13
Supra = mid to high 13
Mach 1= (tuner mags say low 13)
Cobra= in the 12s

I think a more realistic figure would be low 14s stock. Maybe it's because I do all my drag racing in the Vegas desert, but getting a car into the 13s required some serious *****. 271 HP probably will not get it done. More power to anyone who can do it.
Where are you basing this info from??? It only takes a 96 mph trap to break into the 13s for most AWD... some excellent drivers can even do it with LESS than a 96 mhp trap. With the EVO trapping 101.5, many of us who own AWD cars know what kind of 1/4 time it should run with a decent/excellent driver; mid to low 13s.

What did Motor Trend publish that the EVO ran in the quarter? I always tack on an additional .30 seconds on their time because they used a professional driver at sea level, and best time out of around 20 runs.

Jeff
Actually I ALWAYS take time off of the magazines because they suck... case and point... running a 13.8 with a 101.5 trap in an AWD car means you can't drive AWD for ****!

This was discussed AT LENGTH in the thread about R&Ts test figures.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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I would sure hope it runs better than low 14s stock. I run at a notoriously slow track (bristol, TN) where most stock LS1s run mid-high 14s and I pulled a 14.0 @ 96.3 in my stock WRX sedan. That is with 227hp and maybe 150lbs. less weight. The additional hp and torque should more than make up for the small weight difference.

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I think everyone is over estimating what the stock EVO can perform on the track. Low to mid 13s are extremely fast for a street car. I think a more realistic figure would be low 14s stock. Maybe it's because I do all my drag racing in the Vegas desert, but getting a car into the 13s required some serious *****. 271 HP probably will not get it done. More power to anyone who can do it.

What did Motor Trend publish that the EVO ran in the quarter? I always tack on an additional .30 seconds on their time because they used a professional driver at sea level, and best time out of around 20 runs.

Jeff
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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If you cant bust a high 13-second pass in a stock EVO (given you are at a reasonable altitude) you shouldnt be behind one in the first place.
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Old Feb 28, 2003 | 01:24 AM
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Back to the original point of the thread, why would you want to put 800cc+ injectors on an Evo? Most DSM parts dealers that I've seen don't sell over 720cc, and those are pretty huge.
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