MR Trans Swap?
Jon, you noted on your homepage that you actually sell a TRE-Spec 6-Speed.
It's definitely an expensive unit, but what kind of power levels are we talking about here in terms of reliability?
I'm familiar with the stoutness of your 5-speed TRE-Spec trannies and may be interested in going this route in the future with drag-gearing if the TRE 6-Speed can't hold up.
BTW.. is it possible to rebuild the Aiken 6-Speed or would we have to order another unit altogether?
It's definitely an expensive unit, but what kind of power levels are we talking about here in terms of reliability?
I'm familiar with the stoutness of your 5-speed TRE-Spec trannies and may be interested in going this route in the future with drag-gearing if the TRE 6-Speed can't hold up.
BTW.. is it possible to rebuild the Aiken 6-Speed or would we have to order another unit altogether?
Originally Posted by spoolingEVOx
Jon, you noted on your homepage that you actually sell a TRE-Spec 6-Speed.
It's definitely an expensive unit, but what kind of power levels are we talking about here in terms of reliability?
It's definitely an expensive unit, but what kind of power levels are we talking about here in terms of reliability?
The 6 speed ought to be capable of dealing with nearly the same amount of power as the 5 speed, maybe a little less in 4-6 gears because the gear are narrower than the 5 speed.
Originally Posted by spoolingEVOx
I'm familiar with the stoutness of your 5-speed TRE-Spec trannies and may be interested in going this route in the future with drag-gearing if the TRE 6-Speed can't hold up.
BTW.. is it possible to rebuild the Aiken 6-Speed or would we have to order another unit altogether?
BTW.. is it possible to rebuild the Aiken 6-Speed or would we have to order another unit altogether?
Have a good weekend everyone.
Jon@TRE
Originally Posted by GEARS
The 6 speed ought to be capable of dealing with nearly the same amount of power as the 5 speed, maybe a little less in 4-6 gears because the gear are narrower than the 5 speed.
Jon@TRE
The 6 speed will be stronger in 1st & 2nd gear because they are so wide compaired to the 5 speed but after that I'll bet my money on the 5 speed.
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Not at all. I am not any guru. However I can put a case well together. Yeah, you are correct, I haven't even seen a EVO tranny opened, I don't know of many tranny rebuilders, but for the last 48 hours I am defending the unfounded comments that someone made saying the 6 speed tranny is weaker than the 5 speed.
If you pay attention to the original topic you will find out that because of the vast majority of EVO owners drive the 5 speed they feel that the 5 speed is good enough for them (I agree) the problem is when someone brought the topic saying that the 6 speed is weaker(basicly talking smack without proof)
If you pay attention to the original topic you will find out that because of the vast majority of EVO owners drive the 5 speed they feel that the 5 speed is good enough for them (I agree) the problem is when someone brought the topic saying that the 6 speed is weaker(basicly talking smack without proof)
You wrote "Misubishi wouldn't build a newer 6spd that is weaker than the old 5..."
Care to know that Mitsubishi didn't actually build the 6spd while they did the 5spd?
The mere fact that I have better grammar than you, as a german guy that is, will certainly put in perspective what people should think about your comments... I won't even go into the childish insults once you didn't get your way...
Grow up and take anger management...
Greets from Munich, Bavaria, Germany
Originally Posted by High_PSI
Who made the 6 Speed? What other cars share the Tranny?
Jon could clarify.
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Sure... That is why the enginering team from Mitsubishi decided to make a (Mitsubishi Racing) EVO 8 with a weaker tranny uh?
All that I heard is assumptions and speculations from people that really don't have the facts.
Just think for a moment, why in the hell Mitusbishi would build a weaker tranny?, why would they "make" a weaker tranny in their sportiest and top notch Evo 8 version?
I know some fact about the EVO MR 6 speed tranny:
1) Teflon coated cables are very smooth
2) clutch disc despite being the same size as the 5 speed it actually has longer springs for smoother engagement
3) short throw shifter makes the gear engagement very precise
4) noise in top gear is sustancially reduced
5) Fuel economy is better in highway
6) broader choice of gear when driving
7) different thinner tranny oil
Look at this link: http://evolutionmr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140
I am not trying to trash the 5 speed tranny but I am defending the 6 speed tranny because so far all that I heard are unfounded comments about 6 speed tranny are weaker.
I hang out with other guys that have EVOs(03 and 04) and they are all amazed about the smoothness of the 6 speed. For real, there is no proof that the 5 speed is better , did you mentione the infamous transfer case issue on the 5 speed?
my .50c
All that I heard is assumptions and speculations from people that really don't have the facts.
Just think for a moment, why in the hell Mitusbishi would build a weaker tranny?, why would they "make" a weaker tranny in their sportiest and top notch Evo 8 version?
I know some fact about the EVO MR 6 speed tranny:
1) Teflon coated cables are very smooth
2) clutch disc despite being the same size as the 5 speed it actually has longer springs for smoother engagement
3) short throw shifter makes the gear engagement very precise
4) noise in top gear is sustancially reduced
5) Fuel economy is better in highway
6) broader choice of gear when driving
7) different thinner tranny oil
Look at this link: http://evolutionmr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140
I am not trying to trash the 5 speed tranny but I am defending the 6 speed tranny because so far all that I heard are unfounded comments about 6 speed tranny are weaker.
I hang out with other guys that have EVOs(03 and 04) and they are all amazed about the smoothness of the 6 speed. For real, there is no proof that the 5 speed is better , did you mentione the infamous transfer case issue on the 5 speed?
my .50c
amen!!! The 6 speed is no weaker than the 5 speed, people heard about a few tranny problems from people drag racing and ran with it. The fact is though, how many 5 speed tranny problems have we seen? MANY.
Originally Posted by DreamLike1
amen!!! The 6 speed is no weaker than the 5 speed, people heard about a few tranny problems from people drag racing and ran with it. The fact is though, how many 5 speed tranny problems have we seen? MANY.
I stripped the teeth off 4th gear on my 6spd because of heat-related fatigue. Warrtalon broke his 4th gear from road racing approx 2 weeks after mine, even after having no problems drag racing it all year long. There have been a couple other road-racing related 6spd failures as well this year.
The design of the 6spd causes more heat on 4th gear. Jon@TRE said he has hardly ever seen a heat-related failure like this in the 5spds, but has in 6spds.
I thought the 6spd was all fine and dandy too until this summer when some have seemed to have started to fail, all about 1.5 or so years after the 6spd MR was put on sale in the USA. They are all finally getting some miles and substantial track use on them.
Last edited by razorlab; Aug 30, 2006 at 06:17 PM.
Does anybody know of any straight cut gear sets for the evo transmission and transfer case? It seems to make more sense than helical if you know you're definitely going to track your car.