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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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any flaws in my simple mod plan???

Probably easier said than done, but I don't want to go overboard modding my car. Just enough to personalize it a bit and give it a touch more power, I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. I'm trying not to do anything so major that I have to do any major tuning to the car, other than disconnecting the battery so it can re-learn it's new setup.

K&N Filter - should be here next week thanks to another member here.

Cat back exhaust - not sure which one yet, just seems like turbo back may be more intense than I'm looking for, and I want to pass emissions no problem.

Turbo Timer - just to care for the engine

Blow Off Valve - cause they sound cool

Then various non performance accessories: alarm, UK badge, new shift knob, etc.

Does that sound pretty reasonable?
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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looks good but you forgot an ecu flash, id go with a Dynoflash from Al, guaranteed 20 whp
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Depends how worried you are about your warrenty. Speak to the dealers listed nearest you and see what they allow. I spoke to a local today (not the one I bought the car from as they are a-holes) and they said they wouldnt void my warrenty if I put a turboback in. They even offered to install it

Most dealers will let u do a catback and drop in K&N. If I was u, I would throw in an ECU reflash like Dynoflash. The car runs faster after it and the dealer wont know unless they are very savy and go looking for it. U can also get reflashed back to stock and they will never know if necessary.

If they allow u or u dont care about your warrenty, I'd put in a hallman or forge MBC as well.

Give the BOV the skip unless u are planning to to do serious boosting

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Originally Posted by dridge11
Probably easier said than done, but I don't want to go overboard modding my car. Just enough to personalize it a bit and give it a touch more power, I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. I'm trying not to do anything so major that I have to do any major tuning to the car, other than disconnecting the battery so it can re-learn it's new setup.

K&N Filter - should be here next week thanks to another member here.

Cat back exhaust - not sure which one yet, just seems like turbo back may be more intense than I'm looking for, and I want to pass emissions no problem.

Turbo Timer - just to care for the engine

Blow Off Valve - cause they sound cool

Then various non performance accessories: alarm, UK badge, new shift knob, etc.

Does that sound pretty reasonable?
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dridge11
Probably easier said than done, but I don't want to go overboard modding my car. Just enough to personalize it a bit and give it a touch more power, I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. I'm trying not to do anything so major that I have to do any major tuning to the car, other than disconnecting the battery so it can re-learn it's new setup.

K&N Filter - should be here next week thanks to another member here.

Cat back exhaust - not sure which one yet, just seems like turbo back may be more intense than I'm looking for, and I want to pass emissions no problem.

Turbo Timer - just to care for the engine

Blow Off Valve - cause they sound cool

Then various non performance accessories: alarm, UK badge, new shift knob, etc.

Does that sound pretty reasonable?
Reasonable, yes. My suggestions would be to not use your money on the turbo timer and BOV, because neither are needed. Use the money from a bov/tt on a full TBE. You can pass emissions with a HFC and will make the most additional power from going this route while still not needing crazy tuning. In fact, you can get away with that K&N filter and TBE w/HFC without any tuning and still be fine. Of course, there is a good 20-30whp to be gained from a basic flash, but if you don't want that, then you'll be ok. You'll just still be extremely rich at WOT above 5200rpm, but your daily driving, low-throttle AFRs will be fine...

Just to reiterate and hammer it home, do NOT buy a BOV for sound. BOVs are not a play toy, they are designed for the purpose of HOLDING boost more efficiently, not for making sound. You don't need to replace your stocker unless you increase the boost, and since an MBC is not in your plans, then don't do it. YOu will more than likely decrease driveability along with the increase in annoying purge sounds, but of course this is up to your preference.

Alarm is a good idea, and I am quite fond of the UK badge, but a shift knob is gayness unless you can get one for next to nothing.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
but a shift knob is gayness unless you can get one for next to nothing.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Research the Alarm... Most alarms don't work w/ a turbo timer. I'm not looking to go to extreme right now with my car and my mods consist of: Blitz FATT w/ HKS Harness ($120 total) TurboXS intake ($100), RSR GTII Cat-Back ($360), ACT Street Clutch {OEM went out @ 21k miles} ($500), Autometer Boost Gauge ($60). And just bought a JDM MR BOV ($110), Hallman Pro RX MBC ($95), Quaife LSD Diff {Broke OEM one} ($1500). So if you total everything w/o the clutch & diff I've spent $745 and makes the car a bit quicker/better daily driver. Next mods are Down & Test Pipe than SAFC or DynoFlash. Good Luck!!!
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Thanks for the input so far...I'll scratch the BOV for sure and I had never really thought about the TT/Alarm problem. I know I read somewhere they make alarms with turbo timers or something similar?

I'll do some searching on the ECU flash / Dynoflash stuff. That is greek to me right now.

I was kinda leaning towards an Invidia cat back so I didn't even have to mess with an HFC, but I could change my mind before the time comes for that.

ANOTHER QUESTION:

Should I wait until after my break-in period is complete to do anything? The K&N should be here next week, should I hold off on putting it in, or is that minor enough that it won't matter?
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Dynoflash sounds like the best HP for the money, but I don't know when I'd be able to do without my car for up to 2 weeks.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Reasonable, yes. My suggestions would be to not use your money on the turbo timer and BOV, because neither are needed. Use the money from a bov/tt on a full TBE. You can pass emissions with a HFC and will make the most additional power from going this route while still not needing crazy tuning. In fact, you can get away with that K&N filter and TBE w/HFC without any tuning and still be fine. Of course, there is a good 20-30whp to be gained from a basic flash, but if you don't want that, then you'll be ok. You'll just still be extremely rich at WOT above 5200rpm, but your daily driving, low-throttle AFRs will be fine...

Just to reiterate and hammer it home, do NOT buy a BOV for sound. BOVs are not a play toy, they are designed for the purpose of HOLDING boost more efficiently, not for making sound. You don't need to replace your stocker unless you increase the boost, and since an MBC is not in your plans, then don't do it. YOu will more than likely decrease driveability along with the increase in annoying purge sounds, but of course this is up to your preference.

Alarm is a good idea, and I am quite fond of the UK badge, but a shift knob is gayness unless you can get one for next to nothing.

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With a few modifications.

First off all take small steps, you're Evo is fairly new, and understand
what you are buying and why ?

Allthough not neccessay , the JDM MR BOV, wouldn't be a bad upgrade. It's like stock, but made out of metal with a slightly stiffer spring.
( stock is plastic with a very weak spring )

Car alarms are not the end all means of auto security, however any layer of
protection is better than no protection at all. IMO, I think they are worth it.

IMO, a turbo timer is a waste of space and money. If you've been driving
real spirited, let the car idle for 30 seconds before you shut it off.

I personally like the stock shift knob. I think it's a MOMO anyways ( not sure ).

Everything else in Warrtalon's quote ...



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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Only reason I want a different shift knob is I've had leather ones in the past that have worn down and then start looking kinda rough. It would probably be one of those simple silver greddy ones for $35, nothing off the wall.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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I have the Greddy Weighted knob and love it. Much better than the OEM Leather one, IMO.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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I'd listen to Warrtalon, he seems to know his stuff very well.


I have a general question for whoever has the knowledge to answer it.... With a K&N Filter, and a JDM MR recirc valve, can you hear a BOV noise at all? I know, I know, ricer question. But I like the sound but dont want to install a $400 piece just for it.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MitsubishZ
I'd listen to Warrtalon, he seems to know his stuff very well.
Yes he does.

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Originally Posted by MitsubishZ
I have a general question for whoever has the knowledge to answer it.... With a K&N Filter, and a JDM MR recirc valve, can you hear a BOV noise at all? I know, I know, ricer question. But I like the sound but dont want to install a $400 piece just for it.
I have both and cannot really hear any BOV noise.

Others have said they do hear the BOV with that combo.
( sorry if not really helpful ).


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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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for the security and turbo timer though , if you want both you can go with a compustar system it has a built in tubo timer and also comes with remote start if u want it. thats what i have
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MitsubishZ
I have a general question for whoever has the knowledge to answer it.... With a K&N Filter, and a JDM MR recirc valve, can you hear a BOV noise at all? I know, I know, ricer question. But I like the sound but dont want to install a $400 piece just for it.
I have this combo, too, and I don't really hear anything, but everyone else says they can hear it quite audibly from outside the car, such as when driving alongside me.
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