I actually like the idea of renaming the product to further distance it self from other company's "turbos". However you slice it though, with Robert working with David, the stock turbo power struggle is officially over in this man's opinion.

 

Ted, we are in agreement. Running any turbo other than stock or a stock style turbo (like OUR 20G) on a car that is going to be 90% or better run on pump gas is just a rediculous way to spend your money.

The alky kit is good way to make up the difference for a larger turbo.

There will be a re-naming coming on the next change in the turbocharger.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Another change? I still haven't caught up to the 5blade swap yet.. you're killing me Dave lol

 

David,

I sent you my race schedule. Please call me to discuss a timeframe to get my car into your shop. I need the BR BR or the BR 2016.



EVOlutionary

 

Oh my... I'm glad I finally came across this thread as I was about to make the call tomorrow morning to Buschur for this turbo. How long until the revised turbo comes out? What changes are being made, exactly?

 

Give us a call to get the car in.

The turbo has not been changed yet. Normal 5 bladed turbos are all that are being built. No changes are for sure on anything yet as more testing has to be done.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Still can't wait to get my 6 blade swapped out

 

Can you clarify this?

I'm sure you didn't mean to say that the most the 20G will give you is 15WHP.....

 

He said "more power for less money". Pretty simple to understand...

The 20G is double the price of the deluxe kit.

 

But the turbo is double the power. I'm not sure the IC is the best value.

 

Right, I know... He said you get more power out of a FMIC for less money than a 20G, I understand that. So does that mean the 20Gs make less than 15WHP for MORE money? Do you get where I'm going?

I've read a lot of threads lately where the 20G's aren't making anywhere near what Dave's shop car makes. He'll tote the "combination combination combination" flag, but..... nevermind.

This is just going to start another pissing contest since I'm a "Vishnu" guy....

 

Is he not suppose to show the full potential of his product with the right combinations?

Actually, I don't understand where your going with this. My 20G makes more power "up top" in the higher rpms than the stock turbo did. It held the power to redline much better where the stock turbo would run out of steam.

His shop car makes so much more power because its a fully built motor, bad *** set of cams, the right combination of parts, and a readily accessible dyno.

His car just shows the potential of what the right parts can yield.

Steve, you know he is correct about the "combination" comment. It's all about combination.

 

I think what Dave is saying is it's better to get the intercooler first cause it's cheaper and it's part of being the stage 4 which he also recommends before going with a EVO 9 20G.

 

Right, he very well should, and I don't criticise him for that. But his shop car combination is a setup that very few people would replicate with their personal cars.

How much more power "up top"? I understand that these compressor wheels flow well in that RPM range, but what about the low end? What sacrifices are REALLY made there? There is a lot of conflicting results... a nice "get the facts" session would be nice, but no one is impartial enough to provide real results.

Right, as stated above, I'm not arguing that fact.

I know this, I'm not trying to say that if the turbo was really better it would make power on a bone stock car.... that's just stupid.


Lets just give a hypothetical though... you spend your hard earned money on a built motor, full exhaust, cams, intake manifold, IC, IC pipes, injectors, EMS, clutch, drivetrain upgrades, every possible supporting mod in the world that you can think of. Then bolt on a 20G-9 because you want to stick with a stock turbo. That just makes me LMAO. WHY??? I meaks absolutely no sense to me. So you can brag and say "I have the fastest little turbo car around"? At that level of "combination" (even take out the built motor and SMIM)... wouldn't a well sorted turbo kit make more sense?

 

Ask Curt Brown that same question with his 10.5 @ 127! I would much rather "brag" about what my car could do with a smaller turbo than just throw on a bigger turbo and run the same exact time. Do you agree?

Which is more impressive in your eyes?