so your saying that 8* on my utec would be around 3* on an AEM?

 

Yes. That's only about 25-30whp from stock turbo. I'd like to know what this thing makes on 100% 93 octane pump gas. That'll make a believer out of me

 

The peak on the original chart is 387 whp at 6600 rpm. The peak on the new is 430 whp at 7,000 rpm. That is a 57 whp gain in power. The power level at 73-7400 still about 425, the old curve looks like it is down to about 360 by that point. I guess I was off, still 65 whp more at that point.

The timing numbers seem low but you can only give a car what it will take. Knock counts on the EMS as high as 3.7 volts is getting up there. Has anyone every sync'd the timing in the car with the EMS?

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

people got to stop looking at peak no# and notice more on the powerband and how long it holds power for.

 

EVOONYOASS, please zip and upload the Dynojet run files. I'm trying to get people to get in the habit of doing this, so we can all sit at home and do our own comparisons and analysis while switching around correction factors, smoothing, and overlaying the graphs.

 

Doug would have to do that because I don't have the dyno charts saved to my laptop.

I have no clue how to do it even if I did have the files.

 

Ok, I asked him earlier, too, so hopefully he'll get around to it.

You've never zipped or unzipped anything before? That's like a basic tenet of computer use mainly for limiting file sizes when sending things through ether. I will have to give you a crash course on basics of Internet survival!

 

Ok, sounds good. I'm willing to learn. I don't normally mess with the computer other than to get online.

On a side note, I don't know what dyno chart the lower one posted is because I just looked on an old dyno graph from the last dyno session and it showed 390 whp and 373 trq on C16 @ 26 psi and stock turbo. I am talking about the dyno session I had around Christmas time to dyno with the RnR manifold.

So if you compare the last dyno session on C16 and stock turbo with the new dyno sessioin and 20G+meth+fmic+licp+injector with a all the part upgrades I did, there is only a peak gain of about 10 whp and 4 trq. Call me crazy but something doesn't seem right with those numbers.

I know it will carry power to redline better, but I would think the peak power and torque would go up substantially.

 

Yah, see, if you had all your run files and downloaded WinPep7 for free, then you'd be able to put all those runs together on one file and do all sorts of comparisons to see peak gains as well as area under the curve. You need to start getting those files and get schooled up on WinPep. Don't worry; I didn't even know about WinPep until this year, and most people still don't know about it, so I'm trying to make it the "norm" for everyone to have it on their PC so that they can upload/download/compare Dynojet run files...

 

Not sure if you want to go into everything here about the car evoonyoass. There are some things definetely holding the car back as we have spoken.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Hmm have you pressure tested your system for a boost leak?

 

No, but that is exactly what I planned on doing next.

 

David...I think myself and a few others would be much more apt to seriously consider the 20G IX if you maybe show us how it performs on a BPU (including cams too) Evo running 93 octane. Your RS is cool but way over the top for most of us. Evoonyoass has a cool setup but the meth, alky, C16, etc is probably a little more than the average Evo owner is looking to do also.

I'm making a big assumption, but I believe most people looking towards a bigger snail have a TBE, some sort of software, an intake, some 272/272 cams and that's about it. And I know it's a lot to ask, but California Evo owners would also really love to see what kind of numbers this new turbo could do on our beloved 91 octane urine with a mild street tune.

Just a suggestion.

 

Wow... this all sounds so familiar! Remember people, there are many, many factors involved here. The saying "...the crowd is fickle..." applies heavily here.

EVOONYOASS,

I'd say it is way too early to be disappointed with the product. Granted, no one can tell you not to be disappointed with the results, but the results are not always telling of a single products capabilities.

 

I would be curious as well to see what the stock turbo would do with the new parts.

We're you also on the stock actuator? If so, then the difference up top could be even less because the stock atuator will not hold as much boost up top as the upgraded actuator.