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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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I'm hold my full boost at redline, too bad it's not a bolt on upgrade eh? =)
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Hi EFIxMR,

No offense but I feel that you are throwing more confusion into the mix simply because you are left holding the 6 bladed 20Gs.
No offense taken, but the honest truth is all the 20G's I had are sold out. And people call everyday looking for them. I can get the TME, EVO9 stock turbo, 20G, ect, any Garrett turbo, Borg Wagner, ect... I have no special ties to the 20G EVO 9 6 blade, like everyone else here I just want a turbo that performs well.

As far as TC.com... The last order they had 100 units come in, I called them yesterday for stocking and availability they are all sold out too. They have another 100 units on order scheduled to come in next week. If this turbo didn't work... The guys who would know for a fact is TC.com.

As a business person... don't you think it would be an unwise decision to invest in 100 units of a turbo that didn't work?

I'm not sure what the history is on TC.com, but they have treated me fairly. Their turbos come in on time and are packaged extremely safe, plus the pricing the offer to consumers is right on. The turbo's we've bought from them have zero shaft play when we get them, and the machining on them is flawless to the naked eye.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EFIxMR
No offense taken, but the honest truth is all the 20G's I had are sold out. And people call everyday looking for them. I can get the TME, EVO9 stock turbo, 20G, ect, any Garrett turbo, Borg Wagner, ect... I have no special ties to the 20G EVO 9 6 blade, like everyone else here I just want a turbo that performs well.

As far as TC.com... The last order they had 100 units come in, I called them yesterday for stocking and availability they are all sold out too. They have another 100 units on order scheduled to come in next week. If this turbo didn't work... The guys who would know for a fact is TC.com.

As a business person... don't you think it would be an unwise decision to invest in 100 units of a turbo that didn't work?

I'm not sure what the history is on TC.com, but they have treated me fairly. Their turbos come in on time and are packaged extremely safe, plus the pricing the offer to consumers is right on. The turbo's we've bought from them have zero shaft play when we get them, and the machining on them is flawless to the naked eye.
Can you get the IX compressor housing only?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EFIxMR
No offense taken, but the honest truth is all the 20G's I had are sold out. And people call everyday looking for them. I can get the TME, EVO9 stock turbo, 20G, ect, any Garrett turbo, Borg Wagner, ect... I have no special ties to the 20G EVO 9 6 blade, like everyone else here I just want a turbo that performs well.

As far as TC.com... The last order they had 100 units come in, I called them yesterday for stocking and availability they are all sold out too. They have another 100 units on order scheduled to come in next week. If this turbo didn't work... The guys who would know for a fact is TC.com.

As a business person... don't you think it would be an unwise decision to invest in 100 units of a turbo that didn't work?

I'm not sure what the history is on TC.com, but they have treated me fairly. Their turbos come in on time and are packaged extremely safe, plus the pricing the offer to consumers is right on. The turbo's we've bought from them have zero shaft play when we get them, and the machining on them is flawless to the naked eye.
Cool sounds good. I just got my tracking number's from Cal for my turbo. I hope to have installed next week sometime.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TUN8
I'm hold my full boost at redline, too bad it's not a bolt on upgrade eh? =)
Yeah I know! Damn! I wish someone would just make like a friggen custom turbine housing for twin scroll with like a 50 trim or something.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EFIxMR
No offense taken, but the honest truth is all the 20G's I had are sold out. And people call everyday looking for them. I can get the TME, EVO9 stock turbo, 20G, ect, any Garrett turbo, Borg Wagner, ect... I have no special ties to the 20G EVO 9 6 blade, like everyone else here I just want a turbo that performs well.

As far as TC.com... The last order they had 100 units come in, I called them yesterday for stocking and availability they are all sold out too. They have another 100 units on order scheduled to come in next week. If this turbo didn't work... The guys who would know for a fact is TC.com.

As a business person... don't you think it would be an unwise decision to invest in 100 units of a turbo that didn't work?

I'm not sure what the history is on TC.com, but they have treated me fairly. Their turbos come in on time and are packaged extremely safe, plus the pricing the offer to consumers is right on. The turbo's we've bought from them have zero shaft play when we get them, and the machining on them is flawless to the naked eye.
all i want is a stock replacement turbo that will get me more power up top than the stock 16g with a 9.8 hotside. I dont want to make Amazing power because i never plan on breaking the motor open and changing the internals.

I want a 11.5 Street car that i can drive everyday, for a while the odvious choice was the 20g of whatever flavor.

top end power and well as the midrange torque.

I dont want to start throwing out random numbers cause there all diiferent.

I understand the Business Side of it. Why buy 100 units if its not going to work. Frankly i really dont care about that side of it as a consumer. Whatever or however you run your business is up to you. But understand that alot of the people on this forum ( I think bout 80% was mentioned earlier) DONT drive a 35r 2.3l beast to work everyday. We are DSM DAILY DRIVERS. We have a versital car. I drive all over the place. Reliablilty is a major concern.

With all this BS and Mirror tricks that vendors are playing stating that there version of the 20g is Amazing and the fastest only confuses us thus more.


As far as me asking for an actual person to test this out. I think one of you money hungry vendors should step up to the plate. One vendor that has bent over backwards for me is RNR. Eventhough there Kits arent the most powerful, or they dont have every 9 sec EVO running there setup its still efficent and well made.
Id pay for a Soild Solution that works NO BS.

Nobody believe that megan racing was a clean exhuast Until someone tried it out and made solid reviews about it. Right? So before i buy any kit or spend my money on a 20g i want the facts.

We all are looking to make our cars faster and save money were ever we can. Right? or do i stand alone on this one?

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Anthony

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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EFIxMR
No offense taken, but the honest truth is all the 20G's I had are sold out. . . . As a business person... don't you think it would be an unwise decision to invest in 100 units of a turbo that didn't work?
I do, because I'd be beating on your door, demanding a refund.

I am a consumer, you are vendor. I do not profit from this, and you are one of many who do. I'm the only one of us that's invested my own time and money in making a proper test of a product that as far as I'm concerned, was relatively unproven until this point. Now, what's wrong with this picture?

Selling EVO parts appears to be a lucrative 'turkey shoot', and I'd be wise to get both hands and feet in this business. Caveat emptor


Originally Posted by EFIxMR
If this turbo didn't work... The guys who would know for a fact is TC.com.
Unless we've missed their extensive, published testing, I'll have to call .

I have their turbo in my car, right now. I have slower spool, less torque, and no more power than my TME, even at higher boost pressure. Show us graphs and logs a tweaked TME car that gains power and torque from going to a 6-blade 20G, and I'll concede. That won't happen, because it doesn't exist.

As far as TC.com, we've seen no competent third-party testing sponsored by them, nada, diddley, squat. Perhaps they are too busy making deposit runs to the bank.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Post above me is classic.

If this turbo didn't work... The guys who would know for a fact is TC.com.
TC.com have a shop car that they're doing the testing of this turbo on? I'd love to see the info.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Buschur Racing's exhaustive testing on the 20G the past 6 months was on the 6 blade up until about 2 months ago when they had their fall out with TC.com.

I have absolute zero interest in selling things that don't work and have no test data behind it.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Element
Buschur Racing's exhaustive testing on the 20G the past 6 months was on the 6 blade up until about 2 months ago when they had their fall out with TC.com.

I have absolute zero interest in selling things that don't work and have no test data behind it.

All we want is the truth As soon as vendors. (Maybe not yourself but i could name a few) stop feeding us lines.

Which ones Work or none of them at all? Anyone care to comment on this ?


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I do, because I'd be beating on your door, demanding a refund.

I am a consumer, you are vendor. I do not profit from this, and you are one of many who do. I'm the only one of us that's invested my own time and money in making a proper test of a product that as far as I'm concerned, was relatively unproven until this point. Now, what's wrong with this picture?

Selling EVO parts appears to be a lucrative 'turkey shoot', and I'd be wise to get both hands and feet in this business. Caveat emptor


Unless we've missed their extensive, published testing, I'll have to call .

I have their turbo in my car, right now. I have slower spool, less torque, and no more power than my TME, even at higher boost pressure. Show us graphs and logs a tweaked TME car that gains power and torque from going to a 6-blade 20G, and I'll concede. That won't happen, because it doesn't exist.

As far as TC.com, we've seen no competent third-party testing sponsored by them, nada, diddley, squat. Perhaps they are too busy making deposit runs to the bank.

+1 on this. I agree. Maybe we should talk to TC.com and see what the hell the BS is all about.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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hey Ted B if you hate it soo much send it over to me ill buy it off you cheap get it out of your sight
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Thanks for the offer, but I have another, less financially painful arrangement pending.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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I am a firm believer that non of these really work, maybe someone can go to the track and prove me wrong...I mean if it worked wouldn't Warrtalon have it on his car (lol had to put that in there)
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Ya were is Warrtalon when you need him huh?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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I have been on the sidelines observing if the results of these turbos was believable. I too wanted to get one but the contradictory resultshave kept me from making the financial comitment. But something has always bugged me about the whole picture and it is the method used or more explicitly the non-standard method used to develop the hybrid. What would be the result if garret, turbonetics etc used these slapengineering methods? not good.

An outcome like this controversy can be avoided. This is more like it...(see attached pdf)
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