Which manifolds going to add more on the 20g upgrade?.......i know about the coat and ports buschur but i dont want to go without a car so im just going to get one of these.

 

if you must pick. dmp. BUT you will pay for it and get nothing. if you want to buy a manifold your best bet is to call full race and get there manifold for the evo8. you will pay for it tho. its not cheep and it is beter then b/r ported manifold. that is what his testing came up with. it was only like 2whp up top and mid and low were the same. all the others dmp, dc sport, maxford, ss autocrome and whatever else just plane sucked.

 

They tested the DNP and DC for a gain of 2whp? Please link me to that thread right away.

I think the DC is a good manifold and worth looking at since you can get it fairly cheap. Its built incredibly well (thick) and also, the inside collector is fully ported and even knife-edged. I was impressed when I got it. I re-dynoed with a FMIC, 02 and the DC manifold and gained 32whp and 42 ft/lb of torque.

 

power to caust ratio is not worth it. you spend 500+ on dmp and get 2 hp. or spend less the 100 at b/r and get way way more. OR if you must get aftermarket. spend the money in something that is almost worth it. full race and be one up on b/r. but not by much.

 

i typed in manifold testing. go down till you see rnr ebay fullface testing from b/r.

 

I too decided to get what was cost effective, so i went with the BR ported stock mani, BR ported 10.5 and an Ebay 02....

My horsepower goals are in my sig

 

Did you read the original poster's message? He said he DID NOT WANT TO GO WITH THE STOCK PORTED/COATED SETUP. He cannot have downtime. So Im responding to that. This is not a BR manifold vs all debate.

Like I said, show me where in Buschur racing's thread did he test the DNP or DC. You wont be able to because he didnt. He tested Full-Races and RNRs. RNR is the one that didnt make any power, however on another separate test it DID make significant power (EVONYOASS is his name on here did the testing). All manifolds are NOT alike, the DC is designed completely different as is the DNP. Until someone separately tests them, we do not know what they will do. I posted my gains with my extra mods which I thought was quite impressive and at least 20-30% of those gains have to be coming from the manifold.

Also, Buschur was testing those 2 manifolds against his ported/coated one. I agree DNP is not worth $500, but I got my DC for $310 which is only $85 more than the stock ported/coated one. Of course, I dont think the Full-Race is worth it either. $900? Thats just ridiculous. Thats where power/cost ratio comes into play.

In conlcusion, I do believe the SS Auto/Megan/Maxford headers are of cheap quality and thats why I dont reccomend them. I do reccomend the DC because I saw a power gain, its quality is top notch and its price is very good compared to DNP, Full-Race, RNR.

 

well when you put your manifold on did you ad any other mods. cause the only numbers i ever see along with everyone else is number with xx manifold and at least 2 other mods and then they say look what my manifold did.

as for the dmp. i think all the other look JUST LIKE IT exsept the dc, rnr, and full race. so dmp is just along with the rest. CRAP. they all made there cheepy off the dmp. everyone knows this and there are people out there that have dmp with NO gains at all. d/b tested the rnr fullrace and one of the ones that looks all the same. dmp, ssauto, maxford. cant remember the name of the one he tested. he also did the ebay o2 witch came to play as a great part.

the guy asked what he should do. for what it is worth go buy a ****ing used stock manifold for 80 bucks off here send it out let d/b do his thing and get in in the car with NO down time. why waiste you money on stuff that is not proven to what is. you will spend less money in the end and make more power. ant that the name of the game??????????????

 

We have a shop performing their own test soon. They will be changing ONLY the manifold, and test against a stock manifold, and a BR ported manifold

 

b/r did this tho. y dont you guys test the un proven ones along with your manifold and b/r ported. your came out on top then b/r. we know whats best now. so y not test the others.

 

First things first. I have no dyno numbers and I can't tell you which is better or which will make more power. However I have a dc sports manifold on my car and I like it. The car seemed to spool up similar but the upper rpms felt better. From about 5.5k-6k up it feel like the car just pulled easier. Thats really all I can tell you. I have nothing to compare it to but that is my honest and unbias opinion.

 

Does a FMIC and Ebay 02 give you 32whp/42tq? Most definitely not. The Ebay 02 made 13whp while a FMIC upgrade ONLY (I already had lower and upper piping) would add AT MOST 10whp, thats being generous. If you do not agree with me on this, please elaborate where the extra power came from. This was at the same boost and same temp on the dyno, and actually it was even more humid that day I dynoed since it was raining.

What you said was correct about those paticular manifolds, however, you never mentioned the DC manifold mostly in part because it wasnt tested by Buschur, and it looks NOTHING like the design of all the other manifolds. Its definitely not crap. I would never buy DNP just because the design looks just like the cheap ones nor would I buy FR or RNR just because theyre insanely expensive.

 

well show me proff of dc sport manifold adding 15 20 more hp. dont go on dc's site and get there graff because we all know every vendor makes there stand out. its bizz. lets see some proff otherwize.

i have a stock manifold waiting for shipment to b/r. till i get enoff money im going to get the full race one. for a few reasons. as for dmp and the rest. i think they should be sent to full face for melt down so they can make something that works. as for dc sport. it is different yes and looks sweet. but we have yet to see real proff of this gain. also im not trying to fight with you here. but did you do a befor and after. meening did you dyno the car, take it apart put the parts on, then dyno again. all in the same day. cause if one day its 80 outside and the next its 60. you will see a difference. also was you tuned befor the 3 mods was you tunned after. just trying to get an idea of whats going on on your side of the topic.

 

i forgot. SORRY but im also not.

these manifold from what has ben around shows to hurt low end mid is the same and high is where the gain is. but it is not close to a 15 20 hp increase. maby im rong but till there is proven facts here this is where i will stand.

 

I think the dc sports is the better choice.

I am only making this statement based on how i like the way the collector merges together on the dc sports.

I dont have any pics handy, to validate my comment, just look for your self.