In the quest for a Road Race Turbo Kit
As the title says, tired of doing searching cant find something that gives me enough information. So all you road racers please some advise is good
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I think he means a road racing turbo kit...
Rather than peak horsepower and peak torque, you're looking for the widest possible powerband for road racing... something very peaky isn't useful for auto-X and road racing since your RPMs will likely be all over the place rather than within a peaky power band.
That pretty much rules out most large turbo kits, since they are usually more laggy than the smaller turbos.
Rather than peak horsepower and peak torque, you're looking for the widest possible powerband for road racing... something very peaky isn't useful for auto-X and road racing since your RPMs will likely be all over the place rather than within a peaky power band.
That pretty much rules out most large turbo kits, since they are usually more laggy than the smaller turbos.
I agree you don't want a large HP turbo. You want something reliable that won't create excessive heat. And you want predictable power.
May I ask what type of sanctioned racing you will be doing? Any type of road racing will have some sort of limitation on either HP or weight or whatever so let us know so we can help you.
If this is just for HPDE and you have never driven on a road course before let me be te first to say that the car is more than you can handle stock for the first time out.
I realize alot of people upgrade before going out, but they come from drag racing backgrounds. And what happens is they either crash their car, or learn that their car is way too fast for their skill level.
If you are a skilled driver and need more power for HPDE well then it just depends on how much money you have to burn. There are other things that come before a turbo kit for a road race car in my mind.
Those things would be:
-seat time
-better cooling (radiator/intercooler/piping)
-fuel delivery (fuel pump/injectors)
-baffled oil pan (dry sump would be nice)
-good safety equipment (roll cage/seats/harnesses) All SFI FIA cert of course
-nice gear (suit/helmet/gloves/shoes) remember cheap gear is for cheap bodies
-nice race rubber
-light/strong/cheap race wheels
-nice set of coilovers that are cornerweighted ata custom alignment shop
-race brake pads
-race fluids
-lighter clutch and stronger flywheel
All of these things will make you faster than a turbo kit ever will on a road course. More power is usually not better on a road course unless you already have the above and assuming you are already really fast.
May I ask what type of sanctioned racing you will be doing? Any type of road racing will have some sort of limitation on either HP or weight or whatever so let us know so we can help you.
If this is just for HPDE and you have never driven on a road course before let me be te first to say that the car is more than you can handle stock for the first time out.
I realize alot of people upgrade before going out, but they come from drag racing backgrounds. And what happens is they either crash their car, or learn that their car is way too fast for their skill level.
If you are a skilled driver and need more power for HPDE well then it just depends on how much money you have to burn. There are other things that come before a turbo kit for a road race car in my mind.
Those things would be:
-seat time
-better cooling (radiator/intercooler/piping)
-fuel delivery (fuel pump/injectors)
-baffled oil pan (dry sump would be nice)
-good safety equipment (roll cage/seats/harnesses) All SFI FIA cert of course
-nice gear (suit/helmet/gloves/shoes) remember cheap gear is for cheap bodies
-nice race rubber
-light/strong/cheap race wheels
-nice set of coilovers that are cornerweighted ata custom alignment shop
-race brake pads
-race fluids
-lighter clutch and stronger flywheel
All of these things will make you faster than a turbo kit ever will on a road course. More power is usually not better on a road course unless you already have the above and assuming you are already really fast.
Ok Im runing the Solo 1 season in Puerto Rico, right now I use street tires Falken Azenis RT215 and I love them, I run B Class (based on NASA 2005 rulebook) I have 6 points left and I want to gain additional power and response so I can keep practicing with street tires since next year I will go for A class and run with Toyo RA1 or Nitto NT01.
Right now my car is making 360whp and 340 tq. stock ported 2005 turbo, 272 cams, TurboXS FMIC, IC piping, intake, reflash, Fuel pump,MBC, espelir GT springs, project Mu pads all over, Project Mu discs all over, Motul 600 RFL, etc etc. Yes I have experience, but I want more power since I do some ocassional drag too
I was considering the following:
Turbotix 20g Kit
Ultimate Racing 3071 kit
Those are in the price range Im looking for, the rest are wayyyyyyyyyy expensive like AMS 50trim or 3076, also I will be upgrading my injectors and another reflash for new mods of course
Thanks for your time
Right now my car is making 360whp and 340 tq. stock ported 2005 turbo, 272 cams, TurboXS FMIC, IC piping, intake, reflash, Fuel pump,MBC, espelir GT springs, project Mu pads all over, Project Mu discs all over, Motul 600 RFL, etc etc. Yes I have experience, but I want more power since I do some ocassional drag too

I was considering the following:
Turbotix 20g Kit
Ultimate Racing 3071 kit
Those are in the price range Im looking for, the rest are wayyyyyyyyyy expensive like AMS 50trim or 3076, also I will be upgrading my injectors and another reflash for new mods of course
Thanks for your time
My worthless two cents would be to do a larger displacement motor like a 2.3L and a 50 trim or maybe a GT35R. Keep the revs and the boost relatively low, overbuild your fuel and cooling systems as much as reasonable and datalog the heck out of everything.
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No offense but ive been to a driving school here in the states, and unless your a seasoned proffesional already I would highly reccomend a driving school over even a turbo kit. you will probably see faster times and not hurt drivability at all plus its alot more fun to beat up on more expensive cars with a mostly stock evo
Also, be aware that Road Race Engineering now makes a GT3076 kit with a cast amnifold and 02 housing. It can even fit under a trimed stock heatshield. Check out socalevo.net for more information.
Originally Posted by nvr2fast
I think he means a road racing turbo kit...
Rather than peak horsepower and peak torque, you're looking for the widest possible powerband for road racing... something very peaky isn't useful for auto-X and road racing since your RPMs will likely be all over the place rather than within a peaky power band.
That pretty much rules out most large turbo kits, since they are usually more laggy than the smaller turbos.
Rather than peak horsepower and peak torque, you're looking for the widest possible powerband for road racing... something very peaky isn't useful for auto-X and road racing since your RPMs will likely be all over the place rather than within a peaky power band.
That pretty much rules out most large turbo kits, since they are usually more laggy than the smaller turbos.
Originally Posted by Randy
Ok Im runing the Solo 1 season in Puerto Rico, right now I use street tires Falken Azenis RT215 and I love them, I run B Class (based on NASA 2005 rulebook) I have 6 points left and I want to gain additional power and response so I can keep practicing with street tires since next year I will go for A class and run with Toyo RA1 or Nitto NT01.
Right now my car is making 360whp and 340 tq. stock ported 2005 turbo, 272 cams, TurboXS FMIC, IC piping, intake, reflash, Fuel pump,MBC, espelir GT springs, project Mu pads all over, Project Mu discs all over, Motul 600 RFL, etc etc. Yes I have experience, but I want more power since I do some ocassional drag too
I was considering the following:
Turbotix 20g Kit
Ultimate Racing 3071 kit
Those are in the price range Im looking for, the rest are wayyyyyyyyyy expensive like AMS 50trim or 3076, also I will be upgrading my injectors and another reflash for new mods of course
Thanks for your time
Right now my car is making 360whp and 340 tq. stock ported 2005 turbo, 272 cams, TurboXS FMIC, IC piping, intake, reflash, Fuel pump,MBC, espelir GT springs, project Mu pads all over, Project Mu discs all over, Motul 600 RFL, etc etc. Yes I have experience, but I want more power since I do some ocassional drag too

I was considering the following:
Turbotix 20g Kit
Ultimate Racing 3071 kit
Those are in the price range Im looking for, the rest are wayyyyyyyyyy expensive like AMS 50trim or 3076, also I will be upgrading my injectors and another reflash for new mods of course
Thanks for your time
it doens't get much better than a stock like turbo, if you pick up a tme9 or a 20g9-5 you should be in good shape. everything else is just gonna spool too slow for autocross unless you have a 2.4 motor.
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