05 Evo with

stock intake with k&n drop in,
mbc @ 27psi
meth w 12gph nozzle
3" ebay turbo back
IX MR BOV
IX turbo
Forge WGA
megan 02 housing
HKS 264/272
ECU+


Now, obviously there are some upgrades, but I try to be cost efficient and limit myself to sniping auctions for good used parts (cams were $300, turbo w install kit/forge wga and turbo for $500). Or at least parts that offer a good bang for the buck such as meth.

Car runs great, but I need just a hair more power to walk a friends evo that I hold dead even with in 4th and 5th gear pulls.

Intakes, I've never seen a definate dyno proven gain of intake pipes doing better than the stock intake, and if they do its a very marginal, almost to the point of margin of error gain, for a decrease in driveability/non wot situations.

Cam gears. I have none, and again after searching, it seems like most people said seat of the pants felt gains, but when slapped on a dyno, didnt show much, and that was with bigger cams, I would think 264/272 would show less.

Ebay intercooler / IC pipes? Well, hard pipes do jack. Only gain would be by increasing flow with a better licp, but thats a minimal to no gain at best. Ebay fmic seems to have mixed results with some saying its a one trick poney due to heat soak.

Thoughts and opinions? I'm not looking for suggestions like get a $1k part. Just low end cheap stuff that offers reasonable bang for the buck.

 

- ported/coated stock exhaust manifold
- ported/coated hotside on your IX turbo
- LICP/UICP/FMIC (no, do not use Ebay for this) - these are useful on a car running meth and big boost

 

dejon tool hard pipe - gains from less flex in piping anywhere.

 

No gains from a MAF pipe.

 

get out, there are gains from a hard intake pipe, has to be coupled with a filter kit but still. id say 5whp tuned.

 

While he might see gains with an intake hard pipe, they would be minimal at best...Usually, hard-pipe intakes are only beneficial when you have a large turbo application...There would literally be no difference with the intake because he already has the panel filter...Also, keep in mind for whatever mod you do, you're going to require a retune, so don't go blow your cash just yet...If your only goal is to beat a friend that you stand even with, a few mods come to mind:

-LICP: I don't know why you discredited this so early?...There are clear gains, and the stock FMIC is good for around 450whp, in fact with your setup it would most likely negatively effect flow...In fact, you can get the pair from Nisei (one of the best) in the For Sale section or the Group Buy, can't remember which, for like 500...

-Ported/Tubular manifold: If you're on a budget, I'm with Warrtalon, get the Buschur ported, because the cheaper made tubular manifolds crack...

-ATI Super Damper: You don't see too many posts about this one, but it works well...Curt Brown ran it on his Evo, and most other applications see about a 12whp gain...

If you can only afford one, I'd say get the ported manifold, otherwise the next few mods you have will be held back...BTW, any dyno sheets currently?

 

Was your time in your sig done with your current mods? If it was I would say get a new tune. A IX turbo and meth should ahve you well in the 11's and at least trapping 115.

 

280s

 

Also, I'm inclined to recommend this thread... https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=260479 ...Trust me, I'm not endorsing Buschur in any way, but I am warning you of eBay stuff..."Buy quality, buy once"...No point in gaining one place if you are negatively effecting another...Looks may be deceiving, there are other places to cut corners, but that is simply not one of them...And like I said earlier, no point unless you have a large turbo application...Take care, good luck beating your buddy...

 

The 12.4 @ 112 was without the cams, IX turbo, meagan 02, forge wga, or the meth.

Car is reasonably well tuned and substantially more powerfull than it was when i ran 112.

Most of the suggestions sound like they are either big cost ( over $500) or they offer little to no appreciable gain. Think the best bet will just be to save and make the jump up to a green then.

 

i call BS

 

Like others said, Ported/coated exhaust manifold & turbine housing will be worth a few whp, an upgraded FMIC would be a little more spendy but with it as well. Finally, I would send your intake manifold & TB to buschur & have them port & do 65mm conversion on it. Between all of those you're looking at some significant power gains!

 

Ok, then LICP and then retune it. You should get some decent power. Your mod progression is great so far. Your next step is most likely bigger turbo

 

Did you not read my post?

Only one mod I suggested is over $500, and that's an FMIC, which isn't much over $500. It's a very useful and valuable mod when pushing the stock turbo beyond it's efficiency like you're doing - same goes for the UICP. The LICP is maybe $200 and is good for power AND improved spool. The ported/coated manifold and hotside are yet again good mods that are inexpensive. I do not understand your response. Why even bother asking the question if you're not going to listen?

The EvoGreen is a good mod, too, but you can get all of the mods I suggested for that cost, plus you're going to need those mods ANYWAY when you get the Green, not to mention you'll need injectors, too.

 

Ooh, prolly time for a fuel pump too, if you don't have one yet.