OK let's keep in mind that this is on a catted car running 91 octane.

Your car will probably show more gains on better octane or on a test pipe.

So basically I wanted to make this post because I haven't seen anyone dyno just an ETS FMIC by itself.

My car was making 290 whp / 275 wtq before the intercooler with these mods:

Ported/coated stock mani
Titek o2 housing
Garage HRS DP
Vishnu HFC
Greddy Ti
Forge intake box
Buschur filter
Denso 720 cc
Walbro FP
Speed Source LICP
Samco IC hose kit
GST Boost hose assembly

Bryan at GST Motorsports tuned the car on his Mustang Dyno.
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So the baseline run is my previous tune minus the intercooler. The car was sensitive to boost so we left it below 21psi tapering to 18psi.


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After install of the intercooler I noticed I was overboosting by a couple psi so I wanted to see what the car was doing on the dyno. Welp I wasn't imagining it...the FMIC was actually increasing the boost not the other way around.

I was hoping the FMIC would help with the boost sensitivity. Low and behold...after the intercooler my car's boost sensitivity issue was GONE

So we raised the boost a little bit, but nothing too crazy. Look at the difference in the boost curve between the old "boost sensitive" tune and the enw one








Basically I have learned a few things from this modification.

1. Retune your car if you change ANY flow mod or at least baseline it w/ boost & AFR logging to see what it is doing.

2. This intercooler not only looks nice but WORKS and is worth every single penny THANKS ETS

3. Paying attention to boost while driving is critical....best is to have a laptop hooked up logging it....I am working on doing that soon....I have a Defi guage that I am using to monitor and record, but it is not that accurate.

But I wouldn't have noticed the overboosting were it not for the guage....the stock guage doesn't record and it's in an awkward position.

 

Good results. However, most likely 90% of your gains are from tuning and higher boost or dyno variance...

I actually lost 15hp after installing FR Manifold, APS IC, Nisei UICP. Ofcourse, most likely it was due to 20-25F hotter weather on the second run I was so mad after my first retune (same mapper / lost 15hp) that I even got another mapper from overseas. He was able to extract another 8-9hp, so second time around I only lost 6hp compared to baseline After having this experience, I decided that comparing dyno sheets is worthless - even on the same dyno if there is a significant difference in temperature, etc...

Do you have correction factors for both sheets? were they even corrected?

 

Yah I would have liked to have done them back to back same day....but I couldn't because of my work schedule. Runs were 10 days apart. Was slightly hotter the previous day, but not by much.

 

Screw comparing dynos on relative small changes like that 10whp either way could be a number of factors. Look at David and Dan Buschurs car's.......the RS dynoed at 650whp a couple of months ago and at the shootout it dynoed at 627whp still trapped 147-148mph and Dan's car dynoed at 644whp a year ago and ran a 141mph trap before the shootout they dynoed it and it was 606whp trapped 146mph. So, same setups just different days and temps and look at the difference cars whp.

Dave is awesome for actually posting all of this great data too!!

 

Looks like quite a bit more area under the curve, especially in that nice fat powerband. It appears that Bryan is doing a great job with the tuning. I had a blast driving a similar power stock turbo IX the other day, I bet you're doing the same!

Tom

 

Dynoing on different days isnt the best thing to show gains, however, I can tell you, even on the stock turbo, you should upgrade the intercooler. It will yeild good results if you get a good one such as ETS, Buschur, AMS, Nisei.

 

the temps in Istanbul are currently the hottest they have been in the past 80 year (105-110F). With the new parts the car still feels pretty strong even in this weather - but not as strong as it was early spring with less parts, worse tune / ecu controlled boost instead of AVC-R I have no idea how APS stacks against popular ICs in the States, but all their products (i.e. APS Intake, 3" & 3.5" TBE, etc. all seem very well engineered)

 

 

Well I know that different days and weather can affect the numbers.....but even if the only thing this intercooler did was make my car less sensitive to boost then it is still worth it IMO because my car would start breaking up at 21psi before and now it holds that no problem.

 

The take away here is that the FMIC helped in making a sensitive car much less sensitive. This made it possible to run more boost and a different type of tuning which also extracted more power. Thus the car made not only higher peak numbers but fatter powercurves.

 

Sweet....

 

Could you post a pic of the Forge intake box???

 

let me first say that I am not a fan of dynos for anything other then using them as a tool for tuning, and even that can only go so far because most dynos will load the car differently then real driving on the street would. Using them to compare results against each other, especially when done on different days, is pretty much pointless.

Nothing against the IC you have, but you switched only intercoolers and your boost went up? to me that sounds like a restriction. The gains you saw I would attribute to the extra boost you said you picked up and were tuned for. Or the fact that you are comparing two different dynos on two different days. If the IC was more efficent your boost should have dropped, then you would have been able to tune the car slightly more aggressive w/o losing your margin of safety.

If you visit the drag strip on a regular basis you should see an increase in your over all traps. To me that would be a more accurate gauge of the power you picked up.

Again, nothing against the IC you're running or anything, its just my observation.

 

I'm curious why you have injectors and a FP, on stock Cams?

 

There's nothing wrong with that.