Looking to go with Speed Density Set up anyone know where to find ?
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Looking to go with Speed Density Set up anyone know where to find ?
Im looking to go with a speed density set up. Im new to the whole thing but i want to get rid of my maf sensor which ill be doing when i got with a new turbo kit anyway. Im just wondering where should i look and what names should i go with ? Someone told me to look into a GM MAF set up for less anyone have any input on that set up ?
Last edited by Evo8Emperor; Oct 17, 2007 at 09:52 AM.
Check out ttp engineering, they are a maftpro dealer. You could also do a blow through setup using a regular maf translator and a gm maf. Blowthrough will cost about half what speed density does.
Could always go stand alone like AEM.
A GM setup is literally taking the MAF unit from a late model GM car and adapting it to your car with a piece of hardware that translate it. Reason this is done is because they are larger and less restrictive.
Two kinds of setups are done with a MAF:
1) Blow through setup places the MAF inside the upper IC pipe
2) Pull through setup which places the MAF before the turbo (stock setup)
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I was going to do this as well, but after a lot of research, the MAF did not seem to pose enough of a restriction to warrent it. You really need to move a lot of air (>2300 mhz) to outflow the MAF.
I happen to agree with Evotech, although I do run a blowthrough setup, I only recently began seeing the type of flow that would be problematic with a stock MAF sensor.
The only other advantage to a blowthrough MAF is its stability. The stock MAF is notoriously sensitive to concussive noises, vibration, and anomolous airflow patterns through it, which can make tuning difficult and sometimes unpredictable (K&N typhoon is a good example of an intake setup that creates weird flow patterns through the MAF that are inconsistent and therefore hard to tune)
The only other advantage to a blowthrough MAF is its stability. The stock MAF is notoriously sensitive to concussive noises, vibration, and anomolous airflow patterns through it, which can make tuning difficult and sometimes unpredictable (K&N typhoon is a good example of an intake setup that creates weird flow patterns through the MAF that are inconsistent and therefore hard to tune)
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Yah im going for a 35R kit so in most kits they sell you the intake and in pics that i see of them there are no MAF on the intake. I right now still just ahve the stock turbo with the HKS intake and MAF adapter. Plus i was thinking about going with a tial blow off valve. Still unsure on this seeing i heard diverted is better but either way i think i still need the GM blow thru for the 35R kit. Plus if the stock MAF is that sensitive like you say and the GM one is easier to tune with ill go with that one.
Solutions using a MAF are NOT speed density. If you're looking for speed density, the MAF Pro says it will do that.
http://www.maftpro.com/tproinfo.shtml
http://www.maftpro.com/tproinfo.shtml
http://lancershop.com/customer/produ...6&cat=0&page=1
and if you going to go to a gt35r honesty IMO you should get a Standalone ECU (something like an AEM, Hyrda, PowerFC, Motec, etc.) and go to speed density that way. And as for power using more of the new turbo kit your about to drop a bill on ... you should just do it once and right with a Standalone.
And i understand that maybe you want to keep your stock ECU for it's ability to be a great DD and for reablility. however all these other solutions are just piggy-backs... different ways to trick your ECU into thinking something it was not made to do.. which in my pervious experiance (although in hondas) they were just always issues ... weather they be small or easy to fix it was just always problematic
The MAFTPro is a great way to convert to speed density on a reasonable budget. The MAF Translator setup is also a good deal if you just want to be able to run a VTA BOV such as the Tial. If you're ready to spend some more money and wanting to have the ultimate in tuning, the AEM EMS is a killer package 
Tom
Tom
If you are considering a standalone, be aware that a standalone will not pass an OBD-II inspection, so its not always the right solution for a daily driver. Unless your state doesnt have an OBD-II requirement for passing an inspection.



