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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Looking to go with Speed Density Set up anyone know where to find ?

Im looking to go with a speed density set up. Im new to the whole thing but i want to get rid of my maf sensor which ill be doing when i got with a new turbo kit anyway. Im just wondering where should i look and what names should i go with ? Someone told me to look into a GM MAF set up for less anyone have any input on that set up ?

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Im looking to go with a speed density set up. Im new to the whole thing but i want to get rid of my maf sensor which ill be doing when i got with a new turbo kit anyway. Im just wondering where should i look and what names should i go with ?

Check out ttp engineering, they are a maftpro dealer. You could also do a blow through setup using a regular maf translator and a gm maf. Blowthrough will cost about half what speed density does.

Could always go stand alone like AEM.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Could you elaborate on the GM set up i heard about it but i have no idea what its about.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8Emperor
Could you elaborate on the GM set up i heard about it but i have no idea what its about.
In the most simple terms possible:

A GM setup is literally taking the MAF unit from a late model GM car and adapting it to your car with a piece of hardware that translate it. Reason this is done is because they are larger and less restrictive.

Two kinds of setups are done with a MAF:

1) Blow through setup places the MAF inside the upper IC pipe
2) Pull through setup which places the MAF before the turbo (stock setup)
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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We are a dealer for both MAFTPro and MAF Translator and 3" LS1 hotwire MAF for use with blow through setups.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Of subject but by any chance would anyone know where to buy a multiple port vacuum block. i saw it somewhere and i cant remember.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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aem ems/iat sensor/map sensor
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 04:27 AM
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I was going to do this as well, but after a lot of research, the MAF did not seem to pose enough of a restriction to warrent it. You really need to move a lot of air (>2300 mhz) to outflow the MAF.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 04:39 AM
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I happen to agree with Evotech, although I do run a blowthrough setup, I only recently began seeing the type of flow that would be problematic with a stock MAF sensor.

The only other advantage to a blowthrough MAF is its stability. The stock MAF is notoriously sensitive to concussive noises, vibration, and anomolous airflow patterns through it, which can make tuning difficult and sometimes unpredictable (K&N typhoon is a good example of an intake setup that creates weird flow patterns through the MAF that are inconsistent and therefore hard to tune)
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Yah im going for a 35R kit so in most kits they sell you the intake and in pics that i see of them there are no MAF on the intake. I right now still just ahve the stock turbo with the HKS intake and MAF adapter. Plus i was thinking about going with a tial blow off valve. Still unsure on this seeing i heard diverted is better but either way i think i still need the GM blow thru for the 35R kit. Plus if the stock MAF is that sensitive like you say and the GM one is easier to tune with ill go with that one.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Call TTP man, tell him what you are looking for, I'm sure Scott will recommend the right solution for you.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Solutions using a MAF are NOT speed density. If you're looking for speed density, the MAF Pro says it will do that.

http://www.maftpro.com/tproinfo.shtml
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo8Emperor
Of subject but by any chance would anyone know where to buy a multiple port vacuum block. i saw it somewhere and i cant remember.
I'm PRETTY sure your talking about this:

http://lancershop.com/customer/produ...6&cat=0&page=1

and if you going to go to a gt35r honesty IMO you should get a Standalone ECU (something like an AEM, Hyrda, PowerFC, Motec, etc.) and go to speed density that way. And as for power using more of the new turbo kit your about to drop a bill on ... you should just do it once and right with a Standalone.

And i understand that maybe you want to keep your stock ECU for it's ability to be a great DD and for reablility. however all these other solutions are just piggy-backs... different ways to trick your ECU into thinking something it was not made to do.. which in my pervious experiance (although in hondas) they were just always issues ... weather they be small or easy to fix it was just always problematic
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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The MAFTPro is a great way to convert to speed density on a reasonable budget. The MAF Translator setup is also a good deal if you just want to be able to run a VTA BOV such as the Tial. If you're ready to spend some more money and wanting to have the ultimate in tuning, the AEM EMS is a killer package

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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If you are considering a standalone, be aware that a standalone will not pass an OBD-II inspection, so its not always the right solution for a daily driver. Unless your state doesnt have an OBD-II requirement for passing an inspection.
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