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View Poll Results: Which kit is best in your opinion?
Basic 35R turbo kit
5
3.57%
HTA35R turbo kit
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41.43%
TwinScroll 35R turbo kit
13
9.29%
TwinScroll HTA35r turbo kit
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45.71%
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Which 35R setup is the best? Three Different Shops, Three different answers.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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db, what would you throw out? im curious. PM me if you dont want to post it in here
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Old May 5, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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I'm confused David...don't you run a 35r? don't your pump gas records have HTA35Rs? My poll is not about the supporting mods or any other part right now. Just the kit.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Any of those turbos are great. What ELSE you have will tell whether or not they work for you. Buschur has had GREAT results with the HTA 35r, but he has said many times its not JUST the turbo, its the collective unit of ALL the parts. I suggest you pick a shop and allow them to figure out a solution for your goals and budget.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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OK, I don't care if it turns into a pissing match, it shouldn't so............

Yes, we run HTA35r's more than any thing else when it comes to big turbos. It is the best thing going at this moment in my opinion. If I didn't run that I'd run the standard 35r.

We do not build/sell any twin scroll manifolds with the exception of the GT42 kit.

I have no tested any of the kits that are smaller than the GT42 in twin scroll configuration. The only opinion I could/would give would be an opinion with no testing behind it so it is useless.

It's easy to figure out what I "think" from what I have stated and from what we sell.

BTW, even the GT42r on our black car never had two wastegates on it.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 2highpsi
Any of those turbos are great. What ELSE you have will tell whether or not they work for you. Buschur has had GREAT results with the HTA 35r, but he has said many times its not JUST the turbo, its the collective unit of ALL the parts. I suggest you pick a shop and allow them to figure out a solution for your goals and budget.
I completely agree with you but then you get into buying nothing but one shops parts and that to me isn't smart. Some parts from big shops have little to no difference in performance than other parts so the next question is price. I have an AMS TBE which is the only SHOP part on my car rigth now.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Import Junky
I completely agree with you but then you get into buying nothing but one shops parts and that to me isn't smart. Some parts from big shops have little to no difference in performance than other parts so the next question is price. I have an AMS TBE which is the only SHOP part on my car rigth now.

Thats why you have to be picky in your shop. If you look at the guys that let a single, reputable shop plan thier build,... they are all happy. The guys that threw together the cheapest 35r kit they could,.... well they are losing to greens on the track.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Thanks for chiming in again Dave, I didn't expect any more posts from you so I'm happy to get your opinion on it. I guess part of my decision was the "WoW" factor which a lot of you will see as a big waste of money.
A VERY REPUTABLE tuner also told me that he doesn't like to use the twin scroll stuff so.....I'll just have to take this all in and decide what's best for me.

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OK, I don't care if it turns into a pissing match, it shouldn't so............

Yes, we run HTA35r's more than any thing else when it comes to big turbos. It is the best thing going at this moment in my opinion. If I didn't run that I'd run the standard 35r.

We do not build/sell any twin scroll manifolds with the exception of the GT42 kit.

I have no tested any of the kits that are smaller than the GT42 in twin scroll configuration. The only opinion I could/would give would be an opinion with no testing behind it so it is useless.

It's easy to figure out what I "think" from what I have stated and from what we sell.

BTW, even the GT42r on our black car never had two wastegates on it.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Thats why you have to be picky in your shop. If you look at the guys that let a single, reputable shop plan thier build,... they are all happy. The guys that threw together the cheapest 35r kit they could,.... well they are losing to greens on the track.
I'm definately not trying to go Cheap, just trying to be an educated buyer. I don't have any Ebay Knock stuff or any of that crap. My basic setup is a Hallman MBC, AMS TBE, AMS FMIC w/LICP, Walbro Fuel Pump, HKS Intake w/K&N filter. And tuned by Sean Ivey

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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Import Junky
I'm definately not trying to go Cheap, just trying to be an educated buyer. I don't have any Ebay Knock stuff or any of that crap. My basic setup is a Hallman MBC, AMS TBE, AMS FMIC w/LICP, Walbro Fuel Pump, HKS Intake w/K&N filter. And tuned by Sean Ivey
No, I didnt mean you were trying to buy junk or anything. What I meant was plan ahead as much as you can. I would take some of what you read on here with a grain of salt. You need to find a shop/tuner that you trust and that can help you make decisions like this. What kinds of engine management will you be using and who will be tuning it? That will get a you a step closer to your answer
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks for the advice bro. I'll do my best.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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When it comes down to it most people dont push the setup to its limits so I vote normal 35r setup.

I have a "normal" gt3076r setup. which everyone says is a horrible setup, and i love it.

Just remember it cost alot more money to go from 400whp-500whp to 600whp+++

What I would do is weight out your options. Do you plan to build your motor? Do you plan on running a dual fuel pump or sump system? Do you plan on running a crazy clutch and breaking transmissions?

Coming from a 600whp+ honda, I felt a mild setup was best for me, hence stock motor + gt3076r setup. (still cost 5k with intercooler and everything
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Done
When it comes down to it most people dont push the setup to its limits so I vote normal 35r setup.

I have a "normal" gt3076r setup. which everyone says is a horrible setup, and i love it.

Just remember it cost alot more money to go from 400whp-500whp to 600whp+++
You're right about that. I just don't want to spend my money on one thing and then wish I bought another. Luckily I have to wait another 3weeks until I buy my kit so I'll be doing a lot of research and trying to decide what my true goals are.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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From my research on this topic (surfing these forums for the last few months) all of the listed options will net you roughly the same power, depending on your mods and AR housing.

The only difference beween all of the options that I can tell is some of them help to reduce lag and surging.

Its pretty much the same turbo just different variations.

To sum up what I am trying to say is,

If you dont like turbo lag, the HTA or twin scroll options will help reduce this.

If lag isn't an issue, then just get the standard 35R.

Basically you pay extra to try and reduce turbo lag.

Thats my 2c.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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I agree with the above post except that some have shown hp gains w/ hta over regular gt35r
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by m4tt VIII
I agree with the above post except that some have shown hp gains w/ hta over regular gt35r
I agree with you and the poster above. I would like to reduce lag and possibly make more hp. I wouldn't care if it just spooled better and made the same power. The 35r is more than enough for any daily driver so as long as the HTA helps without limiting the turbos potential top end then I'm gonna go for it. The twin scroll setup has been praised and bashed and since it's obviously more costly it's hard to justify. In the end I guess the most logical thing to do is to look at the 35R'd evos that are making the best power and running the best times and go from there. Get the details on all of the supporting mods and who there respective tuner was.

You can search on here all day and fine one person claiming something and another disclaiming it all together, with average joes and vendors alike.
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