I presume the reflash could just as easily retain the stock rev limit. I think if I bought one, that would be my preference.

Question: Is it feasible to buy a new ECU (so now you have 2), and reflash it? The Dodge SRT's have a stage 1 kit from Mopar that works this way. Ony $399 with the ECU and 4 larger injectors. Two ECU's would be cool depending on the part cost from Mitsubishi.

 

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David, you do have potential customers here waiting for an answer, can you please stop side stepping the issue and give us a direct answer. I'm SERIOUSLY thinkin about sending my business your way, but if I can't get an answer, i'll take it elsewhere...
Thanks
Peter

 

interesting...prior to getting the re-flash I actually cought myself shifting at 7800 rpm. I was going by ear and happen to look at the tach.

 

I feel like I am being clear, but apparently I am not.

The Mitsubishi techs cannot at present scan for the Brain flash -- even with the higher rev limit. The scan tools available to dealer techs change on a regular basis. At present, they cannot detect the change. Maybe Shiv knows something I don't, but what applies to BMWs doesn't necessarily apply to the Evo.

The Mitsubishi techs can, of course, drive the car and notice that the rev limit has been increased. The chances of this happening are slim to none during routine service "test drives." If it ever came up, the Mitsubishi tech would have a lot of explaining to do as to why they were bouncing a customer's car off the rev limiter.

In addition, under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which SEMA lobbied for and passed (www.sema.org) , it would be illegal for Mitsubishi to log and void the powertrain warranty on the car as described. The Act states, in essence, that if an aftermarket part causes the failure of an OEM part, that repair will not be covered by the warranty and the dealer may elect to void that portion of the warranty coverage. So... it is not enough to modify the car (raise the rev limit) -- the modification (Brain flash) needs to itself directly lead to the failure of an OEM part for which warranty coverage is sought in order to even become an issue.

Please feel free to read up on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act:

"“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))."

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DavidV@WORKS
BrettP

 

Believe it or not I never saw that post from Shiv.

This is my experience. In 97 my 95 M3 was under warranty. I missed shifted at red line in 2nd gear and went into 1st instead of 3rd. Well the dealer and BMW North America denied warranty coverage. And explain how they knew I miss shifted. Long stories short they explained the BMW save all RPM data over the factory red line. Some people with Shark tuning (chip) would lose there warranty as soon a factory red line was crossed. When Ecutek came out with a higher red line I also asked this? For my WRX.

So now I’m asking you. As far as I’m concerned Vishnu does not offer an ECU to the public market. You do. So I would rather have an answer from you because you claim that you have no less then 4 studies engineers develop the Re-Flash Brain in house. Were your guys able to hid the higher red line from the dealers?

Now would you like to answer the question or should I take Shiv’s quote as gospel. (You did post it)

Not attacking you just looking for a technical answer.

 

So the only why to know is if one of the techs redlines your car??

No way of scaning it?? Maybe you would double check that. Your could be wrong. And being wrong is human nature. It's very acceptable. Nothing will be held against you. And SEMA is not going to help when you car is at the dealer and you have to get to work.

Eric

 

Man, this has been answered several times already. As far as ANYONE knows, there is not a rev limit recorder on the Evo ECU. Both David and Shiv have stated that neither know about one therefore I'm going on a limb here and saying that there's not one. Shiv just brought up the whole 'possibility' because he wants to undermine a Works thread and change it to "Sell more XEDE" thread. If you guys are worried about it DON't take it above the normal limiter.
If there was some sort of recorder not much difference would be made between a reflash or not. At some point in the cars life a small misshift will be made putting it a tad over redline. Not saying it'll be throwing rods through the hood, but just a tad over.

 

Oh I did not see that thread?? can you post a link or just what to search for??

Thanks Mayhem for the information.

My Best
Eric

 

David, thank you for the clarification. I will be contacting you this week...
Peter Blach

 

David,
If I saw some A/F ratio's...You would be getting the quickest 450 bucks you would ever see from me..

I'm actually going on vacation in 4 weeks and would love to do the transaction around then.

but in the mean time...I'm just gonna have to keep yawning.........

Shiv,
how about a similar (priced) product from you?

 

WOW....all this just for a post saying that I ENJOY my reflash....if you all are worried about the warranty, I guess that most of you arent going to change the exhaust on the car. Whats the difference? A DP and test pipe can do the same thing, VOID the warranty. Bottom line, go to a dealer that you trust and have a good relationship with. My original dealer will NO longer get my business (Shelton Mitsu; even though they warranty RMR parts) because when I got my first oil change (which i now do by myself) I saw one of the techs go rippin down the street. When I asked why the F#$@ was this ******* drivin my car, the answer "You said you had shifter NOISE" I said "YES" shifter not tranny. As soon as the tech pulled in, I went and ripped him a new ONE

 

No there is a difference between an exhaust and over-revving an engine.. over-reving an engine will stand up in court to not cover anything in your drivetrain i imagine..


An exhaust they would have to prove caused the problem. which is harder to do..


And get the word VOID out of your vocab, they can't do this and it would be illegal for them to do no matter what mod you do to your car.