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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Bolt On Turbo Line Up

There's been a lot of recent activity regarding bolt on turbo upgrades, giving us lots more choices. However, with so many offerings I thought it would be handy to have a summary roll up of all the options.

All HP/TQ numbers are on a Mustang Dyno for stock displacement engines. If you have data to add, please post a dyno sheet in this thread, or a link to the thread that contains it. The list below identifies thread numbers (to avoid duplicate entries), pump gas numbers in blue, and high octane in red. The table contains the statistical average (mean) of all reported numbers, together with the variation (standard deviation) for all the data points.




Evo 8 (9.8HS)
Evo 8 (10.5HS)
Evo 8 TME
FP White Rabbit 8
Evo 9 Stock
Evo 9 20G
FP White
FP Green
CBRD BBK
FP Red
ATP GT3076R (needs non-standard dp)

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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OK, I know a couple people who have made around 370-375 whp on pump gas on the green, and Indy Evo has made 564.34 whp 528.68 ft/lbs on the FP RED.

On race gas, people have made anywhere from 450-470whp on the green.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Not so sure on that race gas green power number, the same car you took the red data from made more than that 395 on the green.

LOTS of variables here. Almost impossible to get this chart 100% accurate. Maybe AMS can do a bolt-on turbo shootout to go with their cam one
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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post links to threads with dyno sheets and I'll update the numbers - thanks
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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I like the possibilities of this thread...I'm going to keep an eye on it

could definitely be sticky worthy
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Here are results from ATP's bolt-on urbo upgrade. The kit comes with its own dp but uses the factory manifold. These were pump gas results (433awhp dynojet) with a very modest tune.


https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=atp

I hope this data helps your research.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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My WR8 equipped 2004 Evo made 335 whp, 297 wtq on the DTM Mustang dyno with straight pump gas (no meth).
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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time for CBRD to release there turbo!!!!!!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Good post.. lets fill the blanks now
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You need to standardize on Dynojets, because Mustang Dynos are all over the spectrum with their readings. Dynojets, for the most part, are pretty standard across the board, and that is the industry standard for comparison despite not being as good of a tuning tool.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
My WR8 equipped 2004 Evo made 335 whp, 297 wtq on the DTM Mustang dyno with straight pump gas (no meth).
thanks - do you know what rpm peak torque was at?
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
You need to standardize on Dynojets, because Mustang Dynos are all over the spectrum with their readings. Dynojets, for the most part, are pretty standard across the board, and that is the industry standard for comparison despite not being as good of a tuning tool.
Nah...Mustang is becoming the standard. Buschur, DTM, CBRD, razorlab, etc. -- all Mustang. Plus, a lot of the dynos are coming from those shops/tuners. Also, the Mustang dynos are easy to compare. Today at DTM, someone dynoed on the DTM dyno and put down within 5 whp of what they did 2 days ago (similar weather) at CBRD. I understand that CBRD believes their dyno is comparable to Buschur's.

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
You need to standardize on Dynojets, because Mustang Dynos are all over the spectrum with their readings. Dynojets, for the most part, are pretty standard across the board, and that is the industry standard for comparison despite not being as good of a tuning tool.
I picked Mustangs because most people ask about 400 whp on a Mustang as their goal and there seemed more data around Is there an easy way to convert from one to the other? I could add a second table or more columns.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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red white and green
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by voidhawk
thanks - do you know what rpm peak torque was at?
It hit within 2 wtq of peak at 3850 rpm and was at full peak by 4000 rpm. Here's the graph (sorry for the image quality...cell phone pic and my wife has the good camera ).


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