Anyone Running FP RED YET?
I am sure the Red is a better all around turbo...HOWEVER...on a stock motor with just basic bolt ons? I have seen stock turbos make around 350 WHP so only shy about 20 WHP vs the Green...but the difference was much more distinct with the power under the curve vs peak HP...so this could be the same case with the Green vs the Red...the Red might only make 20 WHP more peak...but could be a monster with the power under the curve...or it may not...right now there is about $700 difference between the two...lets see what happens...
Buschur said from the beginning this turbo would only make 30 more whp than an equally equipped Green turbo (bolt on type Evo's, not fully built). Is it worth $700? Possibly, we pay more than that for 30 whp often times. No one should be surprised at these results and the fact that it did so well on the test mule cars comes from their level of modification and high boost/octane levels.
Buschur said from the beginning this turbo would only make 30 more whp than an equally equipped Green turbo (bolt on type Evo's, not fully built). Is it worth $700? Possibly, we pay more than that for 30 whp often times. No one should be surprised at these results and the fact that it did so well on the test mule cars comes from their level of modification and high boost/octane levels.
I like how the torque reaches quick to its maximum point like a stock turbo, stays constant up to 6200 and then just drops a little and slowly. This is good news to me and the 02 dump is performing as expected.
the boost curve is very much a mound... because of fp's actuator, as we have seen with the green, allowing it to hold more boost to redline.
for pump gas, i think id run a green over the red, considering what ive read of this turbo, and what i saw first hand with it on the bench, it is obviously what dave b has proven... very good over 30psi... like a 35R type turbo.
on the street at pump boost levels the results may be different... right charlie?
cb
I made 420whp on the BR dyno. 93 octane only. 29psi.
It's a great turbo
edit: If I didn't have a ported head and a BR built 2.0 I don't think the results would have been as good. Not sure if I would opt for one over a green on a "bolt on" car.
It's a great turbo
edit: If I didn't have a ported head and a BR built 2.0 I don't think the results would have been as good. Not sure if I would opt for one over a green on a "bolt on" car.
Last edited by 2highpsi; Aug 19, 2008 at 07:18 PM.
youre seeing alot of fp actuator holding torque (albeit holding boost)... boost is not on the plot...
the boost curve is very much a mound... because of fp's actuator, as we have seen with the green, allowing it to hold more boost to redline.
for pump gas, i think id run a green over the red, considering what ive read of this turbo, and what i saw first hand with it on the bench, it is obviously what dave b has proven... very good over 30psi... like a 35R type turbo.
on the street at pump boost levels the results may be different... right charlie?
cb
the boost curve is very much a mound... because of fp's actuator, as we have seen with the green, allowing it to hold more boost to redline.
for pump gas, i think id run a green over the red, considering what ive read of this turbo, and what i saw first hand with it on the bench, it is obviously what dave b has proven... very good over 30psi... like a 35R type turbo.
on the street at pump boost levels the results may be different... right charlie?
cb
on the street at pump boost levels the results may be different... right charlie?
How was the drive home Matt? Enjoying the car now
Last edited by kreionic; Aug 19, 2008 at 07:52 PM.
wow thats very good.. i bet with a 3 port boost solenoid or a good ebc that it would not taper at all. or maybe add a spring to make the wastegate hold more boost. either way those are very good results!
was the dotted line the green?
