So i finally got my car on the dyno with my fp-red on 91 octane.

I have ~2000 miles on the turbo & it's still performing as the day i got it..

I like this turbo, as it delivers the power.

transient power: the grn was way better than the red...the red isnt super laggy, but its not as responsive as a green, definately not as responsive as a e8/9 turbo w/10.5 housing. I dont have to downshift when on the freeway or anything......it's just the from when you tip-in till you get the power, the red takes a few tenths of a second longer & happens a few hundred revs later too.

power: the red just simply blows away the green. i can run more boost than the green & run similar ignition.. i believe this is due to the reduction of backpressure of the turbine wheel.

after shift boost recovery: similar in my experience between the 2 turbos'

would i buy a fp red again: i think so. i havent driven a cbrd turbo'd car..... i wish the cbrd was out when i laid down the cash for the red......if the cbrd was out, i may have purchased the cbrd turbo instead, as i prefer transient response.

my mods: fp-red, weapon-r intake mani, mil.spec 65mm tb, ported hotside, exh mani, licp, full 3"dp, turbo xs fmic, pte 1200cc inj, cosi m2 @ +2in/0exh, aem ecu, tuned by me.

dyno charts:
dont crack to hard on my pathetic power curves.....i dont understand the dip at 6k between the 2 runs....i think there must be a crazy resonance within the intake manifold @ that rev point, as i didnt get this with the oem mani....there isnt any knock within the data logs & afrs are @ 11.0.. ..btw, my intake mani was cracked on all 4 runners...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR....i ran 28psi on the red, 26 psi on the green...the engine responds to the higher boost on the red. on the grn, it didnt make anymore power @ 28 psi vs 26psi...


A big Thanks to James @ Reese tuning for allowing me to test my car @ his shop.

next up..... a developmental MIL.SPEC oem intake mani, MIL.SPEC cylinder head & then some e85........i am certain of the inlet mani & cylinder head.....once i get those done.... i may have to upgrade my bottom end....as i should make some decent power... i cant imagine what i will make on e85.

could 500whp on 91oct/stock bottom end be possible with a stockish turbo?.....

 

Nice comparison! Should be alot of fun on e85!

 

I've been waiting for your Red impressions. Nice comparison. Great bolton power on 91!

EDIT: Sorry to hear that the IM cracked. Any details on the Milspec IM yet? Will it be a ported stocker? And if so, will you saw it, port the bend and then reweld it?

 

this is kinda of review I am looking for. I asked a lot of people how they like the Red, they all tell me " spool up fast just like the stock turbo" Right away I knew it wasn't true. To be transit power is everything, I don't know how people run 35R on pump gas deal with that.
I am looking into the Tomei Arms turbo, would you get it if it was released earlier?

 

so if I would be running mostly pupm gas on 24ish pounds, you would recommend getting a green instead of a red?

 

He said in his original post that he might have looked at the BBK Full instead of the Red. I am in the same boat as you. I am already running the Green. But, the BBK dominates the Green on pump gas. It puts down about 30 Mustang ponies more on pumpgas than the Green does, but it still spools up like a stock IX turbo.

 

I think it sums up to how much boost are you going to be running. If the boost is in the mid 20s psi I think the FP Green has a light advantage but if you are going to crank up the boost then the Red is the winner. The thing is that the FP Green is more responsive in a daily basis as long as you don't go high boost while the Red will shy in dragstrips and hwys.

Carlos

 

Am I reading the graph correctly? At 4100 RPM is the Green producing 80 more horses than the Red does? I'll admit that I'm fairly lame at interpreting dynographs!

 

If anyone is planning on just using pump gas and better transit response Green is the way to go, if you have access to E85 then crank up the boost go with the Red

 

No, at 4100 they're about identical. The easier to see lines are HP, the more faint lines are TQ.

 

nah, you got it wrong.....i will modify the graph tomorrow....it's a bit difficult to read...i originally was going to post up whp, then i didnt want people to ask 'wheres the torque plot"!!

at most, there is a 35 whp difference between 3200-3600 rpm.

imo, since power delivery is just a rpm shift of ~250 revs, im ok with it.

if power delivery was vastly different; not being progressive, and there was a much later delay in spool up, then i would be disappointed.......but im not.

I did get this turbo knowing that e85 is available close by, so this biased my decision to "buy now" vs. wait for another unit....

Honestly; on e85, i strongly believe i can get 35psi by ~4250 rpm & hold it till about 6,800 & maybe taper down to 33psi by 8k.....

The fp-red flows some air

 

Thanks for sharing Aby! About the CBRD turbo that you were thinking of getting; are you talking about the BBK Full or the model below it (can't remember the name)?

 

full

 

your green made more power on pump gas than mine did on e85.

 

^ i was on a dyno jet......dont get hung up on the numbers...however, i do like the strong gain!

for your mods, you laid down some decent power