Maybe I am confused on the BHP vs. WHP, I thought those two were one in the same roughly.
Brake Horsepower vs. Wheel Horsepower, arent they measuread at the same place?
EDIT: Wow do I feel like a Newb. I always thought BHP meant Brake HP...lol. From what I read on a post in here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/en...9-whp-bhp.html, BHP is similiar to Crank HP.
Just to clarify, I am wanting 400-420 measured betwen the wheels and the road surface...lol

 

BBK full. you can get the supporting mods and tune the thing as you go. it won't be as efficient at first, but you can get it max potential.

 

lol i figured you wanted WHP but if thats the power you want and have $1700 to spend like i said before ported 9 turbo,kelford 272's and a good tune. that should put u a little under 400whp but with only 1700 to spend your in a hard spot to get an upgraded turbo and supporting mods

 

LOL, that is the whole purpose of this thread. Puting together a list of the supporting parts, and parts to get me close. The Turbo is a big ticket item all on it's own...lol
If you would, give me that list of supporting mods and turbo. Maybe a full picture of what a solid, but budgetable 400-420 looks like from a parts list perspective. No "METH", and NO "Just turbo upgrade and crank the boost through the roof." How does that build a reliable 400 DD? Forget cost at the moment, just so I see if I am missing any minor parts, and just naming the large items...i.e. cams, turbo etc. THere are other mods that I need to support those. I think I have covered most of them, but not sure. Just trying to take my time, and do it as close to right as I can...on a budget...lol

Maybe I should have named this thread, "Post your parts list for a solid, DD 400-420 WHP car." Please include all parts that were upgraded for power purposes. Not delivery purposes(suspension, drivetrain, etc.)

Thanks again.

Edit:Impavidoevo5, what are you running to get to 460? I see the RED on there, but what supporting mods you running? You can PM me if you don't want to list them publicly.

 

Get the GSC s1 or s2's. They idle alot better than the kelford's. I got the kelford 272's and they are very choppy. And with the power you want to make they wouldn't do anything extra over a smaller cam. And don't buy anything from ebay for making power. You won't be happy. Go with an ETS intercooler they're cheap and good quality, or the Buschur deluxe IC with all their piping.

 

Thats funny they made 30hp/tq on my VIII with tuning when I installed them 70k ago. So they are hardly crap for the 280 new I paid for them. The FP4R's and Kelfords are not even in the same league and way more aggressive

 

Trying to understand your statement there?
The FP4R's and the Kelfords? What is more aggressive?

 

kelford/cossie m2's,ams/BR/nisei competition intercooler,880cc or larger injectors,fuel pump,mbc/gm3port/gruppe s 3 port/mil.spec ported TB/IM/Turbo/ex.mani. tune

 

arp headstuds also sorry left it out of the list^^

 

Sorry for the missunderstanding. Meaning that the Kelfords 272's and FP4R's are not in the same league as the BC 272's. Both are more aggressive than the BC's

Kelfords
Valve Clearance: Intake: 0 SET AT
Exhaust: 0 SET AT
Cam Lift: Intake: 6.359 Exhaust: 6.359
Rocker Ratio: Intake: 1.73 Exhaust: 1.73
Nett Valve Lift: Intake: 11.001 Exhaust: 11.001
Advertised Duration @ 0.1mm Intake: 272 Exhaust: 272
Duration @ 1.00mm
VALVE LIFT Intake: 226 Exhaust: 226
Timing @ 1.00mm
VALVE LIFT IVO: 6 BTDC EVO: 46 BBDC
IVC: 40 ABDC EVC: 0 TDC
Suggested Centre Lines: Intake: 107 ATDC Exhaust: 113 BTDC
VALVE Lift @ TDC Intake: 1.52 Exhaust: 1.17

FP4Rs
http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...0110.5+2.5.pdf

BCs
Cam # Adv. Dur. Dur @ .050 Lift (in) Lift (mm) Kit # Dyno

106° 272°/272° 206°/206° .415"/.388" 10.54/9.86

 

Thank you for that.

 

No problem

 

$1700...

BBK Full swap or rebuild $1250
Welbro Fuel Pump $80
FIC Injectors $400 1250's on e-85, 1050's on pump
Total $1730

That would get you the most WHP for the money! Good luck and have fun power hunting!

 

BBK Full swap or rebuild $1250
Welbro Fuel Pump $80
FIC Injectors $400 1250's on e-85, 1050's on pump
Total $1730

Where can I get a BBK for that price? Everywhere I look, its like 1700. I have an EVO8, so CBRD can't even touch it. I would need to buy a 9 turbo, then ship it to them to do that, so the price just went up. Unless you know where one is?

Thanks again.

 

this may help with your cam selection. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-cam-test.html

As far as turbo goes you can either buy a IX turbo now & upgrade later or save & get something like a new BBK later. MAP also has a new stock replacement turbo coming out soon, but there isn't any info on it yet. Price for the MAP turbo will be $1,199 shipped so it could turn out to be a killer deal. Only time will tell. A full bolt on stock IX turbo will get you close to your HP goals on E85. If you are not gonna run E85 then you will have to go with a bigger turbo. However if you do decide to run a IX turbo for now I'v got a ported stock IX turbo for sale. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...d-hotside.html

-You will need a fuel pump for sure. Walbro 255.
-Injectors (size will depend on fuel type & turbo selection) I'd recomend going with 1200s or 1250s if yer gonna run E85. If you upgrade the turbo later you wont need to swap injectors again.
-Boost controller. You can get a manual controller, they work great & are cheap. You can do ECU controlled boost which requires a JDM MAP sensor & I believe an upgraded boost control solenoid (not sure). Or you can get something like the AEM Tru-Boost. The plus side to it is that it doubles as a boost guage too.
-Gauges. I'd recomend a boost gauge minimum, but I also think it's a good idea to have a wideband too.
-Full 3"exhaust. Personal prefrence here. Most will perform the same so factor in price, sound, & looks to your liking. Get a ported stock exhaust manifold also. Best bang for the buck manifold & is hard to beat without spending a ton on a quality tubular manifold.
-Intake. again they will all perform similar so personal prefrence there.
-IX diverter valve. The stock VIII DV doesn't hold boost well so get a IX DV or a good used aftermarket DV. No need for a blow off valve cause they will cause more issues than they are worth with a stock MAF.
-Intercooler. I like my ETS intercooler & it's less exppensive than alot of the other name brand ones. Dont reccomend the eBay intercoolers. I've heard too many bad stories with em.
-Intercooler piping. The lower pipe is more important than the upper, so start there first. Again this is something that is personal prefrence as they will all be similar in performance.
-T-Bolt clamps. Whether you replace your intercooler piping or not you need to replace all the clamps on the upper & lower IC pipes with T-Bolt clamps. The factory clamps wont hold up & you will blow pipes loose without em.

Spend some time in the For Sale section as you will likely run across everthing you need & get some good deals. Good luck & happy hunting.