Why are DP's so pricey?
Originally posted by Zeus
...sometimes people run over hammers... big ones! I ran over a hammer once and had to install another cat. It even bent the cat bolts a little, and I had to replace them too.
Now that I think about it, in my 20's I ran over several heavy objects on the freeway. Any of them could have damaged the cat...
...sometimes people run over hammers... big ones! I ran over a hammer once and had to install another cat. It even bent the cat bolts a little, and I had to replace them too.
Now that I think about it, in my 20's I ran over several heavy objects on the freeway. Any of them could have damaged the cat...
Originally posted by david_borla
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ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A LAW DEGREE THAT CAN HELP US INTERPRET THIS?
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ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A LAW DEGREE THAT CAN HELP US INTERPRET THIS?
David Borla-
Is that the document you intended to reference? I don't see any language that says anything about proving a cat is defective before replacement.
What I took from it was that all installers and consumers had to do was make sure the warranty cards for new converters were filled out and sent back to the manufacturer.
The only other thing that caught my attention was that it said, "a converter may be installed on a vehicle only if it is the appropriate type and size for that vehicle".
There isn't anything wrong with installing a 3" cat on an Evo, is there?
Last edited by propellerhead; Oct 23, 2003 at 06:24 PM.
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It says,
"Installers of aftermarket converters:....................................... must also include a brief statement with each invoice stating the need for replacing the original converter."
That's what's alarming to me.
"Installers of aftermarket converters:....................................... must also include a brief statement with each invoice stating the need for replacing the original converter."
That's what's alarming to me.
The general rule is, you are not supposed to remove the original cat unless it is bad, even to replace it with another one.
The 15 day tag thing is for evidence of the failure. I believe dealers are starting to keep them too for the 15 days when they replace them. I vaguely remember that when I left the dealership.
The whole thing is stupid, so long as there is a functioning cat and the car meets the emissions, it shouldn't matter.
You can make any cat bad by sending a pipe through it and destroying the monolith.
In NJ you have to have repair bills now when you go for a reinspect. I put a cat on my car and they were asking for the repair bill. I had to go home and get the receipt from the purchase and told them I did it myself and that I was a certified technician, which I could back up anyway. They make note of who did the repair and I assue it ends up in their system in case you ever get caught in a rod side inspection without a cat. They do in fact do them from time to time. Loud is exhaust is the first thing that will get you stopped.
That's why it is just not worth all the aggrivation. The fine for cat removal and running the test pipe on the street is somewhere to the tune of $1000 or more if they chose to persue it.
The 15 day tag thing is for evidence of the failure. I believe dealers are starting to keep them too for the 15 days when they replace them. I vaguely remember that when I left the dealership.
The whole thing is stupid, so long as there is a functioning cat and the car meets the emissions, it shouldn't matter.
You can make any cat bad by sending a pipe through it and destroying the monolith.
In NJ you have to have repair bills now when you go for a reinspect. I put a cat on my car and they were asking for the repair bill. I had to go home and get the receipt from the purchase and told them I did it myself and that I was a certified technician, which I could back up anyway. They make note of who did the repair and I assue it ends up in their system in case you ever get caught in a rod side inspection without a cat. They do in fact do them from time to time. Loud is exhaust is the first thing that will get you stopped.
That's why it is just not worth all the aggrivation. The fine for cat removal and running the test pipe on the street is somewhere to the tune of $1000 or more if they chose to persue it.
