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HKS Super AFR or Apexi Super AFC

Old Oct 23, 2003, 01:29 AM
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Question HKS Super AFR or Apexi Super AFC

Hey guys,

need some suggestion and feedback on these 2 items since I am interested on getting an air fuel control for my evo, any comments / testimony or anything like that about HKS SAFR or Apexi SAFC is welcome.

i'm more to hks safr since i wanna make my car full hks but haven't heard any news about evo user with hks afr. thanks in advance though!
Old Oct 23, 2003, 06:15 PM
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Re: HKS Super AFR or Apexi Super AFC

Originally posted by rizalhoo

i'm more to hks safr since i wanna make my car full hks
This is the worst reason to buy any part.
Old Oct 26, 2003, 11:36 PM
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Re: Re: HKS Super AFR or Apexi Super AFC

Originally posted by MuttedTsiAWD


This is the worst reason to buy any part.
DUDE! U AINT EVEN ANSWERING THE QUESTION DUDE!
Old Oct 28, 2003, 09:17 AM
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I would go with the apexi because there is a lot more evo experience with it (read: easier to get help/suggestions on) and I can only assume it costs less than the hks part simply because it's hks

But I don't have any first hand with either but I will be going with an apexi this winter for sure
Old Oct 28, 2003, 11:51 AM
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Actually the eManage would be better than either of those.

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Old Oct 28, 2003, 12:13 PM
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I love my HKS SAFR, used both on my previous WRX(sold) and now EVO. Don't know about the SAFC.
The HKS SAFR are easy to use for me since I used to have a lot of HKS stuff like F-CON,VPC,GCC,AIC and so on. Both will do the work. just which one you like more !!




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Old Oct 28, 2003, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by QuantumEVO
Actually the eManage would be better than either of those.

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AEMs and **** are hard to use, better yes but the learning curve is steep and they take a lot of playing with to get things right, plus you have to change maps all the time ect...

Isnt there' just a nice solid A/F controller? I'm looking for one too, kinda like the APEXI one, but still in the market...
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I love my S-AFC, Its easy to tune and the interface is easy to work with. Truth is, as you need more "Tweakability" you may end up moving on from either of these.. But of the two, the HKS has the advantage of being smaller and stealthier (you can put it in your ashtray opening with a boost controller) The S-AFC's advantage is its display and ease of quickly making changes.

Hope this helps, I still like the AFC better cuz I've gotten very good with it.

And Mark's right, if you have the time and patience, the EManage is quite a bit nicer and more flexible.. Its a piggyback and not a replacement ECU so its functionally still like these items, which means its still subject to the same limitations.

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Old Dec 13, 2003, 01:15 PM
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there is nice comparison of these units on boost solutions site, they say the HKs is cheaper and better
http://www.boostsolutionsinc.net/technical-AFCcomp.htm
depends on what you want to do i guess
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Since you've already stated that you want to go full-on HKS, what is the reason for this comparison? Go with the HKS SAFR.
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I have the Apex afcII. The reason I brought it was because all the tuners recomended it. Buschur, Machv
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SAFR2 has more stuff and features. HKS has less. Both do the same thing. It's ur choice. I say go DYNOFLASH!
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Thanks everyone for the info =)

anyhow i decide to take the bov off since the tuning and installing would cost me too much.
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Originally posted by zTargeTz


AEMs and **** are hard to use, better yes but the learning curve is steep and they take a lot of playing with to get things right, plus you have to change maps all the time ect...

Isnt there' just a nice solid A/F controller? I'm looking for one too, kinda like the APEXI one, but still in the market...
I believe you are thinking of the AEM EMS which is not the same as the GReddy eManage. The eManage is a piggyback just like the HKS and Apex units.

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I opted for SAFCII because my tuner is familiar with it. Plus David Buschur & others favor it. I don't think you'll go wrong with either one, to be very honest.
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