My DynoFlash on 10/25/03
My DynoFlash on 10/25/03
I've been a member on here for awhile but I thought I better use a different name to be "safe"
I went to Pruven on 10/25/03. My car was stock. Pruven installed my AEM intake kit and the Buschur muffler delete pipe then Al did the reflash
Some obversations...The AEM intake sounds awesome!!! The Buschur delete pipe sounds great too but I found some things out.
After Pruven installed the intake and pipe my car went to the dyno. All was done on Sunoco 94 Octane. With the intake and muffler delete pipe I got a baseline of 241whp. After the reflash I was producing 265whp!!
Come to find out the 265whp is with less boost. Apparently adding the delete pipe dropped my boost 1-2psi. I was running 19 dropping to 16-17 before the reflash and intake/pipe. Now I hit 18 for a split second then sustain 16-16.5 to redline.
So, I am extemely happy with the results...265whp with 16-17psi and will either put back on the muffler to see if boost rises or get a boost controller to run 19 to redline...Wonder how much power I will have then
Here's my chart...
I went to Pruven on 10/25/03. My car was stock. Pruven installed my AEM intake kit and the Buschur muffler delete pipe then Al did the reflash
Some obversations...The AEM intake sounds awesome!!! The Buschur delete pipe sounds great too but I found some things out.
After Pruven installed the intake and pipe my car went to the dyno. All was done on Sunoco 94 Octane. With the intake and muffler delete pipe I got a baseline of 241whp. After the reflash I was producing 265whp!!
Come to find out the 265whp is with less boost. Apparently adding the delete pipe dropped my boost 1-2psi. I was running 19 dropping to 16-17 before the reflash and intake/pipe. Now I hit 18 for a split second then sustain 16-16.5 to redline.
So, I am extemely happy with the results...265whp with 16-17psi and will either put back on the muffler to see if boost rises or get a boost controller to run 19 to redline...Wonder how much power I will have then
Here's my chart...
Last edited by GottaGoFaster; Oct 27, 2003 at 09:27 AM.
Nice set up on your car.. . 3" DP and manual boost controller should put your car in the 280awhp range. Was your car empty before you put in 94 or were you running on residual crappy gas?
Originally posted by broeli
Did you do any base runs before the intake and exhaust? I would like to see what the intake did for power.
Did you do any base runs before the intake and exhaust? I would like to see what the intake did for power.
Originally posted by GottaGoFaster
All 94....I have only used 93 2 or 3 times a couple of months ago
Did your boost drop when you installed your delete pipe?
All 94....I have only used 93 2 or 3 times a couple of months ago
Did your boost drop when you installed your delete pipe?
I recommended to him that he do a 3" DP and MBC set at 19-20psi. He thinks it's a good idea and also is looking at doing an upgraded clutch to get that power to the wheels.
Do you have a boost guage in your car or was one hooked up to it on the dyno?
Originally posted by 4-BNGR
It sure did - on my buddies car, that is.
I recommended to him that he do a 3" DP and MBC set at 19-20psi. He thinks it's a good idea and also is looking at doing an upgraded clutch to get that power to the wheels.
Do you have a boost guage in your car or was one hooked up to it on the dyno?
It sure did - on my buddies car, that is.
I recommended to him that he do a 3" DP and MBC set at 19-20psi. He thinks it's a good idea and also is looking at doing an upgraded clutch to get that power to the wheels.
Do you have a boost guage in your car or was one hooked up to it on the dyno?
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Originally posted by GottaGoFaster
No, I wish I would have though...I honestly don't know whay it wasn't done
No, I wish I would have though...I honestly don't know whay it wasn't done
We have already tested those combination of parts you installed many months ago and they usually yield about 8 - 10 whp over stock with the bit lower boost and almost 20 whp when you raise the boost up
As I said before - we feel the increase you have - all the way across the power band is very good and within the range of what we would expect on a stock car with those mods
As the gentelman posted above - add in a MBC or the HKS EVC V we recomend and your in the 280 area
Enjoy the car !
We have already tested those combination of parts you installed many months ago and they usually yield about 8 - 10 whp over stock with the bit lower boost and almost 20 whp when you raise the boost up
Originally posted by broeli
How much hp gain have you seen with just the AEM intake...I want #'s for the AEM, not the Buschur, RMR, etc. The AEM is a little different with the heat shield and maf/turbo tube
How much hp gain have you seen with just the AEM intake...I want #'s for the AEM, not the Buschur, RMR, etc. The AEM is a little different with the heat shield and maf/turbo tube
What we see is that they all LEAN out the car by making the MAF sensor read a bit differntly - this lean effect is what makes the power
We frankly would rather see stock air filters on all the evos - but realize that most guys WILL change the air filter and bov and we will just tune around them
In our testing we see that the Buschur parts are always the ones which make the MOST power and are the most cost effective
Some of the expensive JDM parts look better and are better made - eg ARC and HKS - but do not make any additional power
Originally posted by DynoFlash
We can actually do that upon special request - but it involves strapping the car down on the dyno - then taking it off to install the parts and then re-dynoing it again!
We have already tested those combination of parts you installed many months ago and they usually yield about 8 - 10 whp over stock with the bit lower boost and almost 20 whp when you raise the boost up
As I said before - we feel the increase you have - all the way across the power band is very good and within the range of what we would expect on a stock car with those mods
As the gentelman posted above - add in a MBC or the HKS EVC V we recomend and your in the 280 area
Enjoy the car !
We can actually do that upon special request - but it involves strapping the car down on the dyno - then taking it off to install the parts and then re-dynoing it again!
We have already tested those combination of parts you installed many months ago and they usually yield about 8 - 10 whp over stock with the bit lower boost and almost 20 whp when you raise the boost up
As I said before - we feel the increase you have - all the way across the power band is very good and within the range of what we would expect on a stock car with those mods
As the gentelman posted above - add in a MBC or the HKS EVC V we recomend and your in the 280 area
Enjoy the car !
Al, I just wanted to thank you for the time and effort you put into my car!! I feel the gains are very good and certainily enjoyable on the butt dyno.
We frankly would rather see stock air filters on all the evos - but realize that most guys WILL change the air filter and bov and we will just tune around them

So I guess the maf to turbo tubes are a waste of money...as are any open air intake...good to know. I figured Shiv didn't endorse them for the simple fact of the air scavenging making it difficult to tune the Xede with them and the maf signals.
I figured the increased airflow, when tuned properly with correct a/f ratios that they would help hp #'s. They do flow better than the stock paper filter don't they?
I'd like to see one tuned with a good a/f ratio with and without the intake....keep the a/f at somewhere around 11 with both and see if there's a power gain
Originally posted by broeli
Hmm..you and Shiv both agree on this
So I guess the maf to turbo tubes are a waste of money...as are any open air intake...good to know. I figured Shiv didn't endorse them for the simple fact of the air scavenging making it difficult to tune the Xede with them and the maf signals.
I figured the increased airflow, when tuned properly with correct a/f ratios that they would help hp #'s. They do flow better than the stock paper filter don't they?
I'd like to see one tuned with a good a/f ratio with and without the intake....keep the a/f at somewhere around 11 with both and see if there's a power gain
Hmm..you and Shiv both agree on this

So I guess the maf to turbo tubes are a waste of money...as are any open air intake...good to know. I figured Shiv didn't endorse them for the simple fact of the air scavenging making it difficult to tune the Xede with them and the maf signals.
I figured the increased airflow, when tuned properly with correct a/f ratios that they would help hp #'s. They do flow better than the stock paper filter don't they?
I'd like to see one tuned with a good a/f ratio with and without the intake....keep the a/f at somewhere around 11 with both and see if there's a power gain
The only reason I got one was because I was going to get my car tuned with it installed and figured it would help out a little bit.
I have the aem intake, jic exhaust, and the b&b 3" down pipe. I am somewhat nervous about dynoflashing my car, but this stuff is like heroine the more I get the more I want. The other thing is AZ has crappy gas 91 only. Do you have any kind of idea how this would increase the power in my car.



