can u get the jic exhaust cheaper?

 

some ppl just like the name brand. they (me) rather spend more money on an exhaust that doesn’t perform as well as urs, and sometimes doesn’t sound as good either. i think busur has one of the best flowing exhaust out period. look at the dyno sheets will prove it. Me i like jdm parts and will spend 2500 on an ARC titanium cat-back. Why? Cause some will spend the money for rare or hard to get parts. Its not to show off or bling factor, just personal preference

 

let me try and put my input here,

i really have to agree with Adam on this subject, you are not missing a lot of sales. you have to keep in mind that the world divide into 2 groups, one that wants the "look" even on the expense of a few HP and the ones that want the performance even on the expense of looks. i for one really don't like JIC due tot the fact that i think their quilty lacks and also due to the fact that unlike what people think, they don't have such a great name in Japan. there are much better Jdm companies out there that offer better quality at almost the same price (HKS,FUJITSUBO ETC..). i for one love your system due to the HP and great flow it provides. i think you are doing a great job as is by listening to your costumers (the sound factor, quality, looks) and that is enough for me to buy your system. i don't think you will ever be able to compete with the JDM craze due to the fact that some people really like the fact that it is MADE IN JAPAN and not because it is better. for example, TURBOXS created a full 3" catback with titanium muffler which is really high quality and looks amazing yet a lot of people still rather buy the JIC cat back which IMHO doesn't perform half as good and the quality is really sub par.

just my 0.02c

 

i like the turbo xs one .. it says though that its still a prototype for the evo .. its only out for the sti ?

 

From my personal experience...

I had the JIC stainless steel cat-back exhaust and barely 2 weeks goes by before the tail portion of the exhaust falls off, causing damage to itself and my rear bumper.

My friend Neil had the JIC titanium cat-back exhaust on his WRX and he's had it for a while, much longer than when I had mine. Only a few weeks after mine fell off, his broke off. He eventually shipped his damaged exhaust and JIC supplied him with a replacement.

As for me, I didn't bother. I just went with the HKS exhaust, which I feel is a better design and a much quieter tone compared to the JIC. I've had the HKS for a while now and it hasn't fallen off. Much props to HKS.

 

hks is nice .. but isnt hks 2.5 inch .. i thought in the exhaust post it says 75mm piping which is 2.5 inch .. while all the others are 80mm piping which is 3 inches .. also the hks downpipe is 2.75 inches right ?? i originally liked HKS .. but since it was 2.5 inch piping i said forget it ?? am i wrong ?? if so someone should fix the posts in exhausts part about the piping being 75mm

 

Maybe I'm not representative of the JDM buyer you'd like to target - but I'll tell you why I''m still considering them too.

I want the lightest with the most gains - but not loud, and with a cat.

My wife is very enthusiastic about the Evo (in fact this year's christmas present to each other is going to be tuning the Evo), but she won't like it if it's too loud at WOT or highway cruising.

I'm seriously considering your systems too with a magnaflow and high-flow cat - but I'm worried about how much performance and weight is affected by a different muffler - and I would prefer to replace the o2 housing.

That's why I still have not been able to decide. I will happily pay more money if I know it's exactly what I want.

For example I don't even know that it's feasible, but I have a picture in my head of a full-turbo back titanium (i.e. including down pipe) which eliminates the o2 housing and ceramic coating. I can dream, can't I?

Take care,
Andi

 

Okay guys, I just got my Evo back today with a Buschur SCCA legal cat back installed. Previously, I had the Works Exhale and let me tell you - the Buschur exhaust is actually really nice. It is pretty loud, but no louder than the Works Exhale. The difference here is that the Buschur actually sounds much deeper and has less of a high pitch whine than the Works exhale. Oh, and I love the tip on it. I think it looks pretty damn slick.

I met a guy with an Evo who owns a JIC exhaust. I asked him why he didn't get something else and his response was simply that he didn't know about any of the domestic vendors. He came from the Honda world where HKS and the like more or less dominate the market, so it seemed obvious to go with a name he was aware of and had used previously.

 

I guess he didnt know anything. I think majority of us lived honda and breathed honda for a very long time and JIC exhaust isnt that big of a brand name.

 

Uh...

The difference between 80 mm from 75 mm is 5 mm. 5 mm does not equal to a 1/2 inch. If you are concerned about pipe diameter, there are other manufacturers that make exhausts with 90+ mm pipe diameter.

 

Noodle,

Actually I didn't ask the question because I am "missing out on alot of sales". I asked to see what I could do about getting even more of the exhaust sales out there. I would bet money that we are selling more EVO8 exhausts than any other company is currently. We have sold well over 200 of our full 3" systems so far. I think this is darn good considering the amount of these cars on the road and the amount of time they have been available. I'm really pleased.

As for the spacers I think I have to explain something. The spacers we had machined are .400 thick 304 stainless steel. They go between the lower tie bar and the body. This is required to get enough clearance for a full 3" downpipe and NO clearance problems and rattles in the future. The area between these tie bars and the underside of the car is 3.5". This leaves a 1/4" on each side of the pipe. No enough room for the engine to move around. This is going to be even more of a problem when the cars get age and mileage on them and the motor mounts start to get worn and settle. This spacer doesn't effect anything, it only allows for the clearance of a FULL 3" downpipe. I have seen a fewe systems come through here already that claimed to be 3". I was amazed how they fit so nice without spacers. After measuring them I am seeing alot of guys getting screwed by falls size claims. Most of these are actually measuring in at 2-3/4".

WRXWGN. The N1 tip is the burnt looking straight tip correct? If this is right and that is what you are looking for then I am sure we can do it.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

david,

the n1 muffler looks like your standard jdm muffler (think hks, apex'i...), a grapefuit shooter, if you will. the burnt tip is from the titanium that some mufflers (jic ti, hks carbon ti) have...it looks kinda cool. also alota guys (myself included) like the angled look of "jdm" exhuasts.

if you could find a muffler that has all that, or hell just weld on an hks carbon ti muffler to it, with the angle, you might just have one more sale...*hint hint*

 

BINGO!!!! I totally agree.

IMO, the Buschur piping with an HKS Carbon fiber muffler or HKS SS muffler with the angled style (which would have even less bends) would be perfect. I also don't believe that all the exhaust companies have true 3" piping like Dave mentioned, that's why I wouldn't want one, but if they offer a nice deep sound, had an angled look with 2.75" piping I would be totally fine with it.

 

i enjoyed my JIC ST exhaust, main reason it was really clean, and the sound was enjoyable to me, and i am a sucka for the titanium tip and tilted exhaust, although it didn't survive my crash, i am forced to buy a new exhaust for my new evo, and i have been contemplating for the past month if i want to go with jic or try something different. I would of bought Vishnus since I am following a few of his tracks such as i have a xede, but i don't enjoy the look of exhaust. My goals in purchasing an exhaust that is up to par with its competitors or better, than it has to pass my second if statement which is does it look good...

if(power >= competitors) {
if(looks == taste) {
exhaust = purchased;
}
} else {
exhaust = searching;
}

lol..

 

i would buy buschers if, he would built the same high flowing true numbered dyno exhaust .. true 3"... .. probably a downpipe. if its true 3" and a high flow cat. all of this that doesn't throw a CEL... and has a Titanium Muffler tilted with the burned edge tip. for a great price. i would.. be dropping my cash .now....