MAP ultimate duty VS Manley TT rods
Nov 8, 2011, 04:29 PM
#31
MAP and BR get along quite well now. I am not looking to sell you rods nor take a sale away from MAP. With that said, I have seen one set of MAP rods also bend. I don't know the circumstances, well I don't remember actually it's been quite a long time ago. Other than that I have on experience with them what-so-ever.
I will say we use the Manley TT's and they are an excellent rod. I can't tell you how many sets we've used and it is what I use in the 2.3RPM engines, which is what is in my car. I have not seen one set bend or break, ever.
Also the TT rods are not really heavy, the 300m rods are the heavy ones.
I will say we use the Manley TT's and they are an excellent rod. I can't tell you how many sets we've used and it is what I use in the 2.3RPM engines, which is what is in my car. I have not seen one set bend or break, ever.
Also the TT rods are not really heavy, the 300m rods are the heavy ones.
Nov 8, 2011, 07:29 PM
#32
MAP and BR get along quite well now. I am not looking to sell you rods nor take a sale away from MAP. With that said, I have seen one set of MAP rods also bend. I don't know the circumstances, well I don't remember actually it's been quite a long time ago. Other than that I have on experience with them what-so-ever.
I will say we use the Manley TT's and they are an excellent rod. I can't tell you how many sets we've used and it is what I use in the 2.3RPM engines, which is what is in my car. I have not seen one set bend or break, ever.
Also the TT rods are not really heavy, the 300m rods are the heavy ones.
I will say we use the Manley TT's and they are an excellent rod. I can't tell you how many sets we've used and it is what I use in the 2.3RPM engines, which is what is in my car. I have not seen one set bend or break, ever.
Also the TT rods are not really heavy, the 300m rods are the heavy ones.
Nov 8, 2011, 08:35 PM
#33
my how the times have changed. Based on recommendations from David Buschur and tons of other shining examples I was going to use the Manley I-beam TT's in my X build...but when the time came, they were on backorder. Chris Carey offered me the MAP Ultimate Duty rods instead and I hemmed and hawed but couldn't wait....I went for it.
10k miles on them now, 550whp (dynojet) daily driven 4b11t. Good rod IMHO, it is definitely working for me!
10k miles on them now, 550whp (dynojet) daily driven 4b11t. Good rod IMHO, it is definitely working for me!
Nov 8, 2011, 10:13 PM
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I'm going to go with the Map rods...They are a "better" rod than the TT based on the simple fact that they use bigger rod bolts than the TT rods. You can also use a wider bearing on the Map rod. Both of these rods can take a beating but the regular ARP rod bolts that come with TT rods will fail before both the TT and the MAP rod making the MAP rod better right out of the box. The map rod is also a little lighter.
If you use the custom age rod bolt in the TT rod then they may be equal. But reguardless, both rods will hold up to what 99% of people are trying to make here and the Map rod is cheaper.
If you use the custom age rod bolt in the TT rod then they may be equal. But reguardless, both rods will hold up to what 99% of people are trying to make here and the Map rod is cheaper.
Nov 9, 2011, 06:15 AM
#35
Hell no the TT's aren't too heavy....that doesn't even make sense. First off they are not heavy, they weigh the same as the Crowers we use to use. I can call Manley and find out how many sets of the TT's we used in builds in the last few years, I'd say close to 200 sets based on how many engines have been built since we started using them. It is the only rod we use unless someone wants aluminum rods. I have NEVER had one of the rod bolts fail in a TT rod or a rod failure. I'd like to know who started the ridiculous rod bolt input but it is incorrect and I've heard it quite a few times.
Let me state again, the TT rods are in my 2.3RPM engine in the BadBish, 725 whp and 9500 rpm so far, ON A STROKER. This weekend will be the ultimate test I guess, we are going for 8's in North Carolina on Sunday.
Let me state again, the TT rods are in my 2.3RPM engine in the BadBish, 725 whp and 9500 rpm so far, ON A STROKER. This weekend will be the ultimate test I guess, we are going for 8's in North Carolina on Sunday.
Nov 9, 2011, 09:40 AM
#42
We were actually running Manley TT in our FDSM at the shootout last year due to a backorder on our MAP rods, they held up very well to consistent 8.2X passes nearing 170mph (just as our MAP rods had). I have absolutely nothing bad to say about the Manley product, honestly our goal when we developed these rods was to make something comparable but with a lower price point. Are the wider rod bearing and larger rod bolts necessary? Obviously not, however, being that we were designing a connecting rod from scratch why not implement those features for added insurance? Long story short, you will be happy with either product.
