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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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E85 will get you there easy, but on 93 i wasnt able to.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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Really? 486whp and 504tq seem like 93oct numbers to me for a 2.3 and a red. That's my current setup actually...Ill be happy making 500tq. Not so focused on making over 500whp.
Buschurs dyno reads very low, from comparison numbers Ive gathered his dyno reads 15% lower than a DJ.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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Damn Keath,


39 PSI out of a red? Isn't that a bit much out of the effiecency of the turbo?

Where is that turbo towards redline?
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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500HP on a red on a DYNOJET is not possible.. Let alone on a proper reading mustang dyno.. Realistically 430-450 dynojet is possible from my experience seeing 50 FP red cars tuned here..
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
Damn Keath,


39 PSI out of a red? Isn't that a bit much out of the effiecency of the turbo?

Where is that turbo towards redline?
Not quite 39. 38.8
I have no problem with the turbo other than 4th gear surge(4k-4.5k). I got 64mm.
Mellon is the man for high boost
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports
500HP on a red on a DYNOJET is not possible.. Let alone on a proper reading mustang dyno.. Realistically 430-450 dynojet is possible from my experience seeing 50 FP red cars tuned here..
What hp MD would you equate to 500 DJ? David did tune a Red to 488whp last December on 93. He posted about it on HBF. My car made 440 something (460+ in 4th gear) on the Buschur dyno in October. I think those would be right in the 500 range on a DJ, especially the 488.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
What hp MD would you equate to 500 DJ? David did tune a Red to 488whp last December on 93. He posted about it on HBF. My car made 440 something (460+ in 4th gear) on the Buschur dyno in October. I think those would be right in the 500 range on a DJ, especially the 488.

Our mustang dynos have been found between 11-17% stingy compared to dynojets.


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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by flymx771
Really? 486whp and 504tq seem like 93oct numbers to me for a 2.3 and a red. That's my current setup actually...Ill be happy making 500tq. Not so focused on making over 500whp.
remember buschurs dyno reads stupid low so just putting that out there. he is over 500whp on other dynos of course but still those are great numbers for what he was putting down cashwise and what he wanted.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Currently I am making 403 hp and 367 tq on stock block all bolt ons. What would I gain from
1. Built block?
2. M3 cams ( sitting on shelf waiting for action)
3. Built head( sitting on shelf also)
4. Tubular manifold?
5. Anything else?
I am just wondering about the possibilities. The blue monster (evo) is quick now, but I would like it to be fast!
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Toxic, I must get your made manifolds because when i switched over to my megan racing tubular manifold i noticed a better spool but not power gain, but then again i never dyno'ed it afterwards to confirm.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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I put down 494 with a red on a d/j with pump,stock cams,and clutch!

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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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I put down 494 with a red on a d/j with pump,stock cams,and clutch!
494hp or 494whp?
I dont understand why people run a correction factor or 1.17 or 1.10 (or whatever) and then call it WHP. it's not.
WHP is uncorrected (or temp/humidity/altitude only corrected).
thats why it's called wheel horse power. Power at the wheels.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rong.
Currently I am making 403 hp and 367 tq on stock block all bolt ons. What would I gain from
1. Built block?
2. M3 cams ( sitting on shelf waiting for action)
3. Built head( sitting on shelf also)
4. Tubular manifold?
5. Anything else?
I am just wondering about the possibilities. The blue monster (evo) is quick now, but I would like it to be fast!

1. You dont gain power from a built block just means you can run more psi so technically that will net you power and also better reiablity
2. I would say go fp 4r, S2, or Kelfords 272 to be honest
3. Pending who and what was done with the built head expect to have some nasty gains for real unless its a sloppy port job etc
4. Majority of quality tubulars will net you +20whp and give you great mid and top end power
5. Think about a o2 dump upgrading spring and retainers if head does not have them testpipe if not using one

theres your answer IMO
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
What hp MD would you equate to 500 DJ? David did tune a Red to 488whp last December on 93. He posted about it on HBF. My car made 440 something (460+ in 4th gear) on the Buschur dyno in October. I think those would be right in the 500 range on a DJ, especially the 488.
500whp on a DJ would equate to, ballpark number, 440whp on a mustang dyno.

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1. You dont gain power from a built block just means you can run more psi so technically that will net you power and also better reiablity
A built block will not allow you to run more boost necessarily. Compression ratio is an important factor there, especially when talking about 93 octane. A built block can handle more power reliably than a stock block, yes true.

If you do decide to do a built block and will be keeping it on 93 octane, stick with lower compression for sure, if you do a high compression ratio it will greatly limit your cars ability to make power on 93oct. A fuel like E85 loves high compression, 93 does not. Higher compression means youre more likely to knock.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Svendiesel
500whp on a DJ would equate to, ballpark number, 440whp on a mustang dyno.



A built block will not allow you to run more boost necessarily. Compression ratio is an important factor there, especially when talking about 93 octane. A built block can handle more power reliably than a stock block, yes true.

If you do decide to do a built block and will be keeping it on 93 octane, stick with lower compression for sure, if you do a high compression ratio it will greatly limit your cars ability to make power on 93oct. A fuel like E85 loves high compression, 93 does not. Higher compression means youre more likely to knock.
I was not going into breaking down compression ratio etc just a general answer but thanks for posting that so i dont have to type that was not my intentions of course research needs to be done to when your doing a built block anywho to find out what kind of block suits your needs
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