I already have the e-01. I originally bought it with the intent to add the e-manage later. However, it seems alot of you guys are running the SAFCII and from what I understand is more user friendly??

I have definitely decided I will never go to a stand alone. I plan on using this as a daily driver. I just want it to be a BADAZZ one.
450-500 whp is as far as I ever want to go with this.

Which one would be better for me? And can anyone tell me where I could get it tuned in Colorado?

Thanks

 

What was the problem with the standalone in the past. S-AFC II is more user friendly in terms of accesibility, while you are driving, but in terms of more power and better tune-up E-manage is better, so you are on the right track with E-manage....

 

I wouldn't say the Emanage is any better than the S-AFC, however the Emanage is expandable and supposedly has better mapping. But because its a piggyback, your facing the same limitations as any other piggyback device that uses a MAF intercept. Normally I'd say to go with the S-AFC because its fairly easy to tune, but since you already have the E-01, I would say go with the Emanage, its not all that more difficult to tune but adapting settings from other devices is difficult so you should dyno tune the car. The display for the E01 is already pretty big, I don't think you want to try to find a place for the S-AFC.

 

From what I have heard I would go with the E-manage.

 

I have tuned many of both setups on the dyno and the E-Manage is much nicer since it alows a tighter tuning window betwen RPM's and more adjustability. IT has 256 adjustment points v. 24 on an S-AFC. Bad thing is to store and switch between maps you need the software which is extra. Still, I prefer the e-manage for just about everything over the S-AFC.

 

both e-manage and afc are inacurate, to truley tune your evo get a wideband o2 kit from either AEM or FJO, i suggest AEM cuz its only around 350 but it give u accurate a/f ratings to +,- .01 that is the real deal for proper tuning.. im ordering mine.. if any of you guys live near PA we'd be glad to tune your car for you

 

I don't think there's any question that you need a wideband to tune the devices.. but he wants to know what people prefer for a tuning device. I have to agree with Guru with regard to the tuning points and whatnot, but we're dealing with fudging the MAF sensor signal which means there isn't a huge window for tuning, especially if you change injectors or whatnot, there may not be a large enough margin for adjustment to adequately tune for it. At that point one of the other products becomes a more attractive deal.

I would certainly go with the E-manage because you already have half of the equation. The S-AFC's only advantage over the other is the ability to adjust it as needed without using software or a computer. Though I do think there is some level of adjustment you can make with the E01 and the EManage.

FWIW I also recently ordered a wideband setup with datalogging ability, RPM input, 3 analog and 3 thermocouple inputs. It should be enough to log and tune... My point is that if you plan on making your own adjustments, you need the tools to do it right. If you aren't comfortable, or can't afford them, its much safer to bring it to a good tuning shop. Even if its a road tune, your talking a major difference.

 

That really has nothing to do with the original question. Apples and oranges my friend. But you're right, a wideband is the ONLY way to tune a car properly. Everything else is just guessing.

I have the E-Manage and it's working great for me. Yes, it does suck that you still need to buy all the important add-ons separately. i got mine from ultimate racing as they have a package with all that you need. I don't own a wideband so i have them tune my car with their motec.

 

yeah well boosting my NA with my s-afc is a nightmare.. its a must to get wideband for this because.. impossible to properly tune an NA car to turbo specs.. impossible.. im having the worse time.. so im just waiting to get my wideband but on the oher hand i would also rather have an EVO but what can you do..sorry for not reading the post correctly but IN your case i would stick with the E-Manage

 

Thanks for the input guys. Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.

In light of your guys input, I am going to go with the e-manage. Not in small part due to the fact that I already have the e-01. The next problem I'm going to face is finding someone to tune it properly.

Thanks

 

I never have had a stand alone. I made the decision not to go with the stand-alone because this is going to remain my daily driver.

 

Where can I get a wide-band o2 sensor?

 

I thought if you had the e-01 you didn't need the software??

 

you do need the software but its only like 80 bucks

the major difference between a SAFC and E-manage is the fact that you have SOME ability to alter the timing with the E-manage.
To properly tune e-manage you need a laptop and the software

Or find somebody that has a laptop