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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 02:01 AM
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I dont think too many people do hard driving in their Evo and seconds later turn off the car and just jump out of it. I always make sure I have my phone, keys and leave nothing of value in site when getting out of any of my cars so thats my timer right there.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 02:46 AM
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 04:11 AM
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and on another note, 1 extra minute isn't gonna do much... When i pull off the track my car idles for about 15 minutes... And even if u drive spiritly to Ralph's and get groceries, while u put put to find a parking spot is more than enough time to cool.. The extra minute for ur TT's doesnt do anything besides make you look like "that guy"
When I roadrace my cars, I always let it idling a long time between groups. Like the 15min you say. The TT is useful for the street, where my oil temps never go beyond 100ºC. I´d rather look like "that guy" that has a car than "that guy" who had the car stollen for waiting the engine cool down a bit and the thief to come.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ohhbronx ixmr
I dont think too many people do hard driving in their Evo and seconds later turn off the car and just jump out of it. I always make sure I have my phone, keys and leave nothing of value in site when getting out of any of my cars so thats my timer right there.
Don´t know about the Evo, but I´ve seem some turbo VWs with blown turbos due to abuse. Evos might be faster but no way more realiable then a VW. I´ve had two 1.8T GTIs and still own one.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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I don't ever recall any OEM manufacturer putting one on, ever! If everyone drives normally, as is expected of a normal driver, there's probably no use. But such a device is great for people who actually track their cars. Try running a 25 minute session in the summer with 100% humidity and see if your stupid turbo last buddy! Consider it preventative maintenance...which isn't completely useless! I'm willing to bet you've never tracked your car before!
What do you want to bet?

Like it's been said before, nobody beats the crap out of the car and then just suddenly stops, there's always some cool down time. Anyways, I was just showing honda-guy that he himself proved that if a part didn't come with the car, then it is useless.

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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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because mitsu didn't intend the car to be tracked every other weekend like i do. turbo timer is absolutely not necessary for DD cars unless you use it for other features like warming up your car in the morning or keeping the AC on while you run in the store.
Mitsu didn't what?? They built the evo for RALLY racing, have you ever seen one of those? I have friends with rally evos racing every weekend, ask me how many have turbo timers? none. Ask me how many turbos have they replaced in 3+ years of rally racing? none.

Let's face it guys, turbo timers aren't needed, common sense is.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoardo IX
Mitsu didn't what?? They built the evo for RALLY racing, have you ever seen one of those? I have friends with rally evos racing every weekend, ask me how many have turbo timers? none. Ask me how many turbos have they replaced in 3+ years of rally racing? none.

Let's face it guys, turbo timers aren't needed, common sense is.
Oh. So you think mitsu would warranty your turbo if you tell them you rally race your car every weekend, . if mitsu built the evo for racing, then every parts on the car should be warranty under racing conditions. good luck with that. as stated by someone else, they probably don't come with from the factory due to liability reason.

I don't know how a rally event is setup but I instruct and often have to jump right into a students car as soon as I pull i of the track. I do try to time my session and come in early in those cases but sometimes I do forget. i have to admit that i don't see a lot of turbo timers at the race track either, but those guys have the budget to replace turbos two to three times a year. i'm just a poor boy racer, so i like to take care of my equipment

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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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What happens with a turbo timer and an oil leak? Especially when you panic?

Fail. Bad mod, sit your *** in the car for 30 seconds then turn it off, save $100+ on a turbo timer and install.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Sold mine years ago, car ended up being so damn loud I'd take it easy when pulling up to park and immediately shut the car off. 103k stock turbo still boosting 26psi+ easy.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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In the old days before synthetic oils, oil would congeal in the lines from heat (coking) and create blockages starving journal bearings of oil.

Synthetic oil, water cooling and regular oil changes have made turbo timers completely obsolete and a waste of money gas and emissions. I do get a giggle out of seeing them in peoples cars though...
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wingless
In the old days before synthetic oils, oil would congeal in the lines from heat (coking) and create blockages starving journal bearings of oil.
^ Sludge is a result of poor maintenance and does more damage while the car is running then when it is stopped. Good oil doesn't congeal and the reason the oil feed line is on top and the return line is on the bottom is to prevent pooling. Also note that when you start your car every morning that you don't hear a grinding from your turbo while it waits for oil to be pumped to it because it was BONE dry from it burning all the oil out of it. No its still lubricated and good to go because its a well built system designed to stay lubricated for the next time you go to start it (Not picking on you "wingless" just saying.).


Whats funny is simply the amount of people who have bought into this tom foolery.

This isn't an argument where people are trying to convince you and there's facts for both sides and in the end no one knows for sure, and everyone walks away none the brighter. No you are straight out being informed maybe for the first time or the hundredth time... the turbo timer is a ricer mod and does not have magical powers. You don't need tornado intake inserts, automatic shift chips, specialty labeled bottles of race car 50/50 methanol (windshield de-icer), electric turbos, turbo timers, or any of that other cheap eBay crap that the rest of us have known for years was garbage.


If you have a turbo timer, that's cool. If you have a turbo timer and think it has magical powers, that's a little less cool. If you have a turbo timer and are actively trying to argue with twenty plus year mechanics, a few real speed shop owners that came in here and /lol'ed, some active race car drivers, and at least one or two engineers well then you sir may be a little confused and might want to open your eyes a bit. Just saying, with love.


If you want to improve your turbos cooling look at things that truly work, stuff like improving your cars oil'ing and water systems.

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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wingless
In the old days before synthetic oils, oil would congeal in the lines from heat (coking) and create blockages starving journal bearings of oil.

Synthetic oil, water cooling and regular oil changes have made turbo timers completely obsolete and a waste of money gas and emissions. I do get a giggle out of seeing them in peoples cars though...


I run conventional oil. However, unlike 99 percent of other 'built' Evo owners, I closely moniter oil temps and use them as a big part of the overall operation, maintenance, and modifications to the car.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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I agree with not having a turbo timer...however the question came up as to whether manufacturers like Mitsu actually offer that feature.

The new 2011-12 Ford turbo diesel pickups have an option to include a cool-down timer function when you build it online....I would not get one but just saying...it does exist from the factory in this case.

Wonder if other manufacturers do the same...deep in the options add-ons?

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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
What happens with a turbo timer and an oil leak? Especially when you panic?

Fail. Bad mod, sit your *** in the car for 30 seconds then turn it off, save $100+ on a turbo timer and install.


When I rebuilt my 9 turbo that had at least 50k hard miles there was hardly any sign of coking in the turbo and it had some long oil change intervals by the previous owner.

They are just a waste of money and a pain in the *** most times.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Well Im that guy also but mine also has a shift light feature and other warning indicators built into it which is why I still have it. Mine is an HKS type 2 so it has an auto feature that basically looks at rpm to calculate how long to turbo time. Most of the time its less than 30sec for me getting to work or home.
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