Volcom86

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has upgraded their Old school FP RED running a GT3582R compressor wheel with a journal bearing and rebuilt it down the road with a GTX3582R compressor wheel and still keeping the journal bearing. The turbine in this i believe is from a TD-06H? It has 11 blades

I am currently going down this road and I want to see if there is any data on the performance... What are the spool times like with the gen1 GTX3582R vs the old school GT3582R

Being such a unique turbo there is not much info out there.

Thanks for any input

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Have reqeusted one of our good members,who has done some turbo rebuilding, to post up
@2006EvoIXer

2006EvoIXer

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I am asking Tyler to respond. Is this old school Red for an evo 8 or 9 with a reverse rotation? I don't recall any reverse rotation GT3582R or GTX3582R available. The last GT3582R I bought is forward rotation.

2006EvoIXer

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@EvoIX89

EvoIX89

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There is an KTS 3582r 6 blade Billet and extended compressor wheel that fits the Old school red turbos. Along with swapping some thrust parts to match.

And correct, the old school reds came with a 11 blade TD06HR turbine wheel.

now there is one person in the DSM community named Jason Drew who has upgraded his old school red to the KTS 6 blade Compressor wheel, and swapped the 11 blade turbine for a light weight 9 blade turbine.

from my knowledge the new turbo spooled 200rpms faster, and he made the same power with 3-4 less psi of boost pressure. Without any other changes, besides touching up the tune.

Im not sure there is a GTX (11 blade style) drop in wheel for that turbo, I’d have to check the KTS catalogue, but that 6 blade seems to work great. His 2G is full street car, on QTP’s and is consistent mid 10’s at 135+mph

Volcom86

Thank you all for the replies and EvoIX89 for chipping in.

I been dealing with my local Garret distributor and rebuild center and they have confirmed they can definitely fit in a GTX3582R GEN-1 11 wheel style billet compressor with some light modification to the compressor housing and upgrading the journal bearing. Keeping the TD-06H turbine.

I would like to think that the spool with the GTX GEN-1 compressor wheel should somewhat spool the same if not slightly better then the GT3582R compressor wheel. I am just hopping it wont be laggier.

The current 6 blade GT3582R compressor wheel is rated around the 65 lb/min
The GTX3582R compressor wheel is rated around the 75 lb/min

Lets say the GT3582R compressor wheel does 400-HP at 21-PSI is it more then likely the GTX3582R will do 400-HP at 19/20-PSI?

Once again thank you for all you feedback.

EvoIX89

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I would expect the GTX style compressor wheel upgrade to make the same power at 3-4 psi less or so. That seems to be the trend when upgrading to a modern aero on the majority of compressor wheels.

2006EvoIXer

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I'm interested in seeing how boost curves are between the 2 compressor wheels. Please keep is posted!