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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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FMIC for stock turbo??

was thinking of buying the AMS FMIC...what kind of gains am i looking at here on a stock turbo???
would that be the best FMIC for its value?
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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i think the gains are in the 7-10hp range? or maybe thats just new piping.

try doing a search. the car looks much nicer with an aftermarket fmic taking up more room in the front.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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One of the magazines did a FMIC change on the stock turbo and picked up quite a bit of power in the ~6500 and up range (exactly where the car falls on its face) They had already installed a cat-back and a high flow cat and a few other bolt-ons but were still using the stock turbo. I think they mentioned that the peak hp gain wasn't as impressive as the "power under the curve" that was gained. I would reference the mag and article, but I gave all my magazines to my brother. He's stuck on the USS Cape St George with nothing but Electronic Technical Manuals to read!
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 02:46 AM
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thanx guys ... a friend of mine has a evo 6 tommie makenen and with identecal mod's as mine and he just fixed a FMIC and he's car is flying...exept the evo 7 already comes with a bigger front mount then the evo 6...so dont know??
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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the best upgrade is replacing the lower IC pipe with an IC upgrade. The Buschur kit comes with this for $750, which makes it a steal.

Joe
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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the intercooler isn't really worth doing until you've upgraded the turbo...the stocker is a really really good unit and you will only see minimal gains with the upgrade until you change the turbo
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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If you have a turbo back exhaust, and a free flowing intake, you will pick up a significant increase. When I replaced mine with a custom Hybrid 12x24x3 bar/plate, (stock IC piping), I hadn't changed my MBC. The fist test run, It blew my upper IC pipe off at the TB. Which indicated to me, the stock IC is a restriction. My seat-of-the-pants dyno says about 15hp increase as long as you have the other free flowing mods.
A internal combution motor is basically an air pump, free up the in flow and out flow, you increase HP/TQ.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Stock intercooler from what I have read has about 1.4 pressure drop...

Buschurs has about .80 ,Plus you get colder denser air for longer periods since the new intercooler will not heat soak..

Worth while upgrade and hope mine will be delivered soon since there backordered....
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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dont waste you time. the stock intercooler works fine with the stock turbo up to 24psi with no heat soak problem.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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the four bigest HP/TQ increases I've had on my car are:
1. Turbo back exhaust
2. Dyno flash ECU
3. FMIC
4. HKS Cams.
These four mods, along with other minor mods,
put me over 300hp on 91 octane!
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by westchester evo
dont waste you time. the stock intercooler works fine with the stock turbo up to 24psi with no heat soak problem.
This is not directed at at the person posting this, but at ALL the mislead minions regurgitating mindless crap...

BULLSHlT!!!

I'll not waste time with a long post... crank up the search engine as we've only beaten the clutch issue to death worse... the info on the intercoolers is here.

Last edited by Zeus; Sep 19, 2004 at 07:57 PM.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Honestly, I didn't pick up any gains on the dyno after changing my intercooler. I changed it in more or less preperation for my turbo upgrade, better protection against heatsoak, and less pressure drop.

Shane
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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with new fmic stock turbo can produce abuot 390 whp. that is impossible with stock unit. im makin about 360 whp now and i will make 30 more with the 10.5 hotside and ams intercooler.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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damn Z, having a bad day?

I think driving and putting load on the car will show the benefits of the bigger intercooler.. Plus reducing the pressure drop means lowering restriction, lowering restriction means less work for the turbo.. so although overall gains may not be as great, you give yourself more headroom to work with. Plus heat soak issues and whatnot which are more prevelent (but harder to measure) on a dyno..

The additional surface area also means you can shed more heat at high loads.. so any turbo will benefit from an upgrade.. It just may not be as great as with a giant turbo. I can tell you from personal experience that there's gains to be had with optimizing potential restrictions, and this is just one of those optimizations.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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the hotside is from forced performance.
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