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11secEVO7 Mar 3, 2005 10:21 AM

ok seriously...what's the deal with lightened pulleys?
 
I searched and searched....but found only mixed answers.....
some think it's a good idea

and some think it's trouble...




so finally....is it good or bad?

I only know of unorthodox who makes them...

Thanks

RallySport Direct Mar 3, 2005 10:50 AM

There is a big difference between lightened pulley and underdrive pulleys. Under drive pulleys tend to reduce you accessories such as your AC and your alternator. They are designe for race use where these parts do not matter.

A lightened pulley just take out rotational mass kind of like a lightweight flywheel. It will reduce the rotational mass of the pulley unleashing power from your motor. The perrin lightweight pulley is a nice on because it is the stock size but very light compared to the stock pulley.

Ben

EVOTEXAS Mar 3, 2005 11:14 AM

I have had good results with my UR Crank Pulley with no adverse effects purchased from GSC Motorsports.

RallySport Direct Mar 3, 2005 11:27 AM

Sounds to me like you got the lightened pulley instead of the underdrive pulley set offered by UR. Which really for a everyday driver is the best option. {thumbup}

Ben

EVOL EDO Mar 3, 2005 11:46 AM

i had lightened underdrive pulleys on my mustang. improves throttle response a lot. drawbacks are cuz of the lower spinning alternator at idle it would charge enough so tended to run off the battery charge for help with headlights and a/c on so in the rain or at night had to watch the battery charge meter so it didnt die in long periods of traffic, also the a/c ratio meant the ac didnt blow as hard or as cold. but hell wat did i care it was a convertable who needs air and idling isnt ur friend.

EVOTEXAS Mar 3, 2005 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by RallySport Direct
Sounds to me like you got the lightened pulley instead of the underdrive pulley set offered by UR. Which really for a everyday driver is the best option. {thumbup}

Ben

Lightened and underdriven. Just the crank. Def. smaller than stock, that's why you have to get a shorter belt.

Kaane Mar 3, 2005 12:52 PM

Problem is the stock crank pulley has a damper in it, without it, it is possible to have crank problems and your engine goes bye bye and the gain is what? 5whp?

Kwman Mar 3, 2005 12:57 PM

damper = harmonic resonator i think its called im sticking to stock right now...Untill a FULL bolt up kit from UR (underdriven with the resonator and belt) im sticking with stock

11secEVO7 Mar 3, 2005 03:48 PM

^^ that's what I mean...

this crank problem thing........
how does this happen?

2MANYCARS Mar 3, 2005 09:41 PM

Stock pulley is your best friend on the motor, I wouldn't mess around with it.

BADEVO Mar 3, 2005 09:49 PM

Harmonic Balancer

timzcat Mar 3, 2005 10:15 PM

Harmonic Damper not Balancer. :)

BADEVO Mar 4, 2005 06:31 AM

...thats not what the part number cross reference calls it. LOL

timzcat Mar 4, 2005 06:47 AM

:lol: If Mitsubishi were smart they wouldn't be losing billions of dollars every quarter. :lol:

Balancer is old school from when engines were externally balanced.
Just poor terminology like alternator, WTF is an alternator. :lol:
It's a generator but since they moved the voltage regulator inside people started calling it an alternator.

alleggerita Mar 4, 2005 06:48 AM

The two important issues that have been identified on this board both relate to the deletion of the harmonic dampener rather than underdrive or not (yes underdrive may not work for you if you have high eletrical accessory demand): One is possible wear of crank bearings the other one is essentially harmonic imbalance being interpreted as knock activity by the ECU and dialing back of timing and horsepower loss as result.

One thing I still remain curious about is why the harmonic balancer is so crucial on the Evo engine, as I have run other straight fours with undampened underdrive pulleys successfully though they didn't have a harmonic dampener from the factory. Is there anything that makes the 4G63 vulnerable to harmonics?


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