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BADWRX May 16, 2003 01:37 AM

Forged Pistons and Rods in the EVO?
 
Does the EVO have forged internals?

One of the major drawbacks of the WRX is the lack of forged Pistions and Rods!

Please tell me that the 4G63 in the USDM EVO has forged internals!

Thanks,
Andy

jfh May 16, 2003 10:08 PM

Re: Forged Pistons and Rods in the EVO?
 

Originally posted by BADWRX
Does the EVO have forged internals?

One of the major drawbacks of the WRX is the lack of forged Pistions and Rods!

Please tell me that the 4G63 in the USDM EVO has forged internals!

Thanks,
Andy

Forged crank and rods. Pistons are lightweight AC8A (T6) cast aluminum.

Claudius May 17, 2003 05:46 AM

Where did you get this info from, jfh?

Braf May 17, 2003 06:59 AM

Re: Re: Forged Pistons and Rods in the EVO?
 

Originally posted by jfh


Forged crank and rods. Pistons are lightweight AC8A (T6) cast aluminum.

Thats news to me. With proper tuning the rods have proven first to go. I seriously doubt that they could be forged. The pistons though not forgrd, are however amazingly strong.

mhgsx May 17, 2003 09:03 AM

Not sure if I really believe them, but so far, all the mags claim that the crank, conrods, AND pistons are forged.

Personally, I've noticed that the engine seems a bit noisy when cold, them seems to quiet down after warmup. Cars w/ forged pistons have this trait due to the expanding of the piston, so who knows? :dunno:

jfh May 17, 2003 10:24 PM


Originally posted by Claudius
Where did you get this info from, jfh?
Claudius,

It came from our US Evolution Encyclopedia written and compiled by our very own Mark Modaressi.

https://www.evolutionm.net/features/...agenumber=4&s=

ShapeGSX May 19, 2003 12:25 PM

There is no need for the Evo's pistons to be forged. Mitsu has their stuff together when it comes to making pistons for forced induction. They are strong. The ECU does a good job at keeping everything happy. The oil squirters pointed at the piston bases keep things cool.

People have run stock DSM pistons into the 10s in the 1/4mi. They are not the weak point.

Braf May 22, 2003 01:44 PM

Pistons.
 
Forged pistons are quite forgiving when tuning goes wrong, but if you are doing it properly you should not melt or break anything.

marc_pogson May 31, 2003 12:17 AM

not forged
 
the pistons in the evo's 4g63 second generation are not forged
and the rods are not forged either, i have built many of these motors and know for a fact that they break easily when you start to reach the range of 350 HP. The Crank shaft is good for around
500 HP but i have not broken one yet at over this,

but with new pistons and con rods the engine 500 HP pluss is easy oh and intercooler upgrade is needed after 20 PSI boost.

the stock pistons and rods were made realy small to save weight
they are very week. for high boosted big turbos, :mitsu:

Black_Evo_VIII Jun 2, 2003 02:26 AM

Re: not forged
 

Originally posted by marc_pogson
the pistons in the evo's 4g63 second generation are not forged
and the rods are not forged either, i have built many of these motors and know for a fact that they break easily when you start to reach the range of 350 HP. The Crank shaft is good for around
500 HP but i have not broken one yet at over this,

but with new pistons and con rods the engine 500 HP pluss is easy oh and intercooler upgrade is needed after 20 PSI boost.

the stock pistons and rods were made realy small to save weight
they are very week. for high boosted big turbos, :mitsu:

Is this true on EVO 8?

Claudius Jun 2, 2003 08:47 PM

I totally agree with Marc Pogson.

If Mitsubishi had suddenly decided to use forged engine parts on the Evo 8, they would mention it whenever they can...

AutoXer Jun 2, 2003 09:07 PM

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/PDF-E/evo8.pdf

See the bottom of page 8!

Black_Evo_VIII Jun 3, 2003 12:32 AM

That is settled. EVO VII and EVO VIII have differences in internal engine components. EVO VIII pistons and Rods are stronger. :thumbup:

Claudius Jun 3, 2003 05:47 AM

I saw that before. I'll believe it the day someone shows me an Evo 8 rod or if someone from Mitsubishi shows me a technical datasheet for the rods.

Tarmac Black Jun 3, 2003 11:04 PM

Forged crank and rods. Pistons are lightweight AC8A (T6) cast aluminum{thumbup}


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