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rovanpera Jan 4, 2008 03:42 PM

revs don't come back to idle
 
please help, anyone:

2006 bone stock 9 mr, 37kmiles. i accelerate normally in firts and second, and then brake (or coast), clutch in. the revs take FOR EVER to come back to idle. sometimes this is also apparent on downshift, such that the car fights the brakes.

no check engine light, gas pedal free, gas linkage lubricated (i was concerned it does not go back the the sheath), return spring on the throttle body works perfect, idle rock steady, no abnormal noises.

this started about two moth ago, and is intermittent.

thanks for any thougths on this,

peter:confused:

bluebanana23 Jan 4, 2008 03:45 PM

check your vacuum lines

rovanpera Jan 4, 2008 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by bluebanana23 (Post 5119740)
check your vacuum lines

ahhhh, vacuum lines, ahhhh, perhaos you can suggest a diagram or an old post? i looked but i am not sure i can tell what actually is vacuum....

pk

krazirob Jan 4, 2008 03:59 PM

like how long does it take for the revs to come down

DrivinMissDaisy Jan 4, 2008 04:09 PM

My IX does the same thing. When I gun it in first or second and push in the clutch and don't shift to the next gear, my RPM's come down slow. It is almost like I am in gear, engine braking, but i am not.

I talked to some one and they said it had to do with emissions. How? No idea.

Ph3n1x Jan 4, 2008 04:11 PM

What does you TPS voltage read when this occurs.


Log you car if you can...

Leaning towards vaccum leak.

krazirob Jan 4, 2008 04:56 PM

well he is gonna need evoscan or something.............but vaccum leak does sound like the issue

Chemwarrior Jan 4, 2008 04:58 PM

Sounds like another case of throttle hang. Do a search on that and you will find many posts.

lurkerpika Jan 4, 2008 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by rovanpera (Post 5119749)
ahhhh, vacuum lines, ahhhh, perhaos you can suggest a diagram or an old post? i looked but i am not sure i can tell what actually is vacuum....

pk

uninstall.

rovanpera Jan 5, 2008 07:05 AM

so this is what i got from the throttle float (hang):

1. BOV spring too stiff and
2. HOWEVER, this is just a partial cause, the Base Idle Speed Setting is a bypass valve, as is the Idle Stepper Control Valve, both let air past the throttlebody, and when you have a firmly springed valve, slight excess boost pressure, and a ICSV setting or BISS setting to increase idle speed to prevent some types of stalling, you will get the idle hang/raise..

i am still at a loss whys this happened after 2 years of owning the car, how to fix this, and how to diagnose this wihtout ambiguity so that i can stick the stealer with the cost of repairs.

rovanpera Jan 5, 2008 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by rovanpera (Post 5121178)
so this is what i got from the throttle float (hang):

1. BOV spring too stiff and
2. HOWEVER, this is just a partial cause, the Base Idle Speed Setting is a bypass valve, as is the Idle Stepper Control Valve, both let air past the throttlebody, and when you have a firmly springed valve, slight excess boost pressure, and a ICSV setting or BISS setting to increase idle speed to prevent some types of stalling, you will get the idle hang/raise..

i am still at a loss whys this happened after 2 years of owning the car, how to fix this, and how to diagnose this wihtout ambiguity so that i can stick the stealer with the cost of repairs.


i still cannot understand this: do we need to adjust the idle stepper table because there is no way to trick the clutch switch ? are there two clutch on/off switches or only one? why throttle hand is elimienated by the double triggering of the clutch switch???

thanks,

BlueDemon Jan 5, 2008 08:14 AM

If it feels like it takes 4-5 seconds for the rev to come down in first after reving it to redline and putting the gear in neutral after that, then is just a normal thing for evos. A tune fix that lil' issue for me.

Your case sounds like it's happening on normal and high loads so the throttle is hanging for no reason. Yeah u better log the car and from there determine what is going on. Also check the vaccum lines and the throttle cables for sure.


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