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itsmrrizz2you Jan 17, 2013 05:52 AM

Need help gsc n/t lifter install no compression
 
Installed gsc non tick lifters the other day and my car wouldn't start up. I did a compression test and found no compression in 3 cylinders. I sat the lifters in oil before I installed them. So I called gsc yesterday and was told that the lifters are ready to be put rite in. I was told to take them back out and open the check valve in the lifter with a paper clip and compress the lifter to get the oil out and bleed them down. Did that last night and still got the same results! Why are these lifters not bleeding down? My timing is definatly on point 100%. Anyone have any ideas or feedback? Thanks guys gonna call gsc back today and see what they say.

Aby@MIL.SPEC Jan 17, 2013 06:03 AM

yeah, you need to bleed the lifters big time.

itsmrrizz2you Jan 17, 2013 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Aby@MIL.SPEC (Post 10611186)
yeah, you need to bleed the lifters big time.

Would you take them out and bleed them again or will they bleed themselves by just sitting in the head. I opened the check valve and pumped all the oil out of them I thought? Thanks for the feedback

Aby@MIL.SPEC Jan 17, 2013 07:38 AM

sorry, gotta pull them. unless someone knows an easier quicker method that doesnt involve a pry bar!

itsmrrizz2you Jan 17, 2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Aby@MIL.SPEC (Post 10611346)
sorry, gotta pull them. unless someone knows an easier quicker method that doesnt involve a pry bar!

Yea I guess I do. This will be the 3rd time pulling them. Not going pry bar route lol but it did cross my mind... Anyone else have trouble like this with these?? I also installed a kiggly Hla not that I think it has anything to do with my lifter issue

barneyb Jan 17, 2013 09:56 AM

Well, if the Kiggly is not working then no oil to the lifters and they stay collapsed. Can you tell if the top end is getting oiled?

Have you actually checked compression? Also, spark and fuel? If all that is okay then I'd suggest another hard look at timing.

itsmrrizz2you Jan 17, 2013 09:56 AM

just to let everyone know i talked to the guys at gsc and there over nighting a brand new set of lifters to me. that is a+ customer service in my book. specially cause i can be the one bleeding them wrong... very helpful and easy going guys over there at gsc. so im just gonna take the new set rite out the bag bleed them and drop them rite in. i guess sitting them in oil was a bad idea on my part

Boostin_hard Jan 17, 2013 11:25 PM

in for results plz:)

itsmrrizz2you Jan 18, 2013 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by barneyb (Post 10611642)
Well, if the Kiggly is not working then no oil to the lifters and they stay collapsed. Can you tell if the top end is getting oiled?

Have you actually checked compression? Also, spark and fuel? If all that is okay then I'd suggest another hard look at timing.

i have actually compression checked all cylinders. the kiggly hla is brand new i put it in with the lifters. timing is def on point 100% we did it 3 times. fuel and spark were also checked. we will find out today since gsc over nighted me a new set. they said its possible that the lifters were keeping the valves open

itsmrrizz2you Jan 21, 2013 09:47 AM

Got a update. The car is fine now and I got compression in all cylinders 150 across. The lifters took 2 days to bleed down while in the car even after taking them out of the package, opening the check valve inside with paper clip as GSC said to do, and pumping all the oil out of them. Took the car for a drive this morning and everything feels good running smooth and the lifters are quieter than they were before

itsmrrizz2you Jan 21, 2013 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Boostin_hard (Post 10612882)
in for results plz:)

Over all everything is good and the guys at GSC are real helpful. But if you are gonna use these lifters 1- call GSC for proper install so you don't have issues like I did and 2- be prepared for your car to be down for a few days so the lifters can bleed themselves down.. Thanks everyone

browningderek Jan 21, 2013 07:29 PM

What valve springs are you using?

turbotboz Jun 5, 2014 12:07 PM

Bringing back from the dead-

So were these installed without any oil in them? (dry) Buddy of mine has a similar issue.

Travis

Evo_AK Jun 5, 2014 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by turbotboz (Post 11225732)
Bringing back from the dead-

So were these installed without any oil in them? (dry) Buddy of mine has a similar issue.

Travis



I think his problem was he installed them with oil in them. After taking them out, bleeding them with a paper clip, and letting them sit for a day, they were good to go. I have seen people soak them in diesel over night, bleed, then install and work just fine.

Sir2egk Jul 21, 2014 08:19 PM

Your supposed to bleed them dry, stick a paper clip in, flip lifter upside Down and start pumping


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