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Problem with ATP's Garrett Ni-resist TS housing?
Hello Forum, is there anyone else with the new Garrett Ni-resist turbine housing? I was about to install it on a customer's 3071, when I discovered it wasn't possible as the seat is different! Moreover on the same turbo in the last years I installed both the ATP's AirResearch TS 0.78 and 1.06 with success, so it really seems to me that something is wrong with the last housing I received. Please have a look at the pics, thanks http://i40.tinypic.com/wuhug5.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/2vbotts.jpg
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can you confirm it's the correct part number for that turbo?
Could they have sent you the wrong part? |
I pulled my GTX3576r off the ATP 1.06 a/r T4 TS and it bolted up with no issue to the new Garrett 1.01 a/r v-band TS. You can see my housing has 2-steps and came straight from Garrett.
http://www.eng.fsu.edu/~jthagard/EVO...g/VbandTS2.JPG |
Originally Posted by RSMike
(Post 10958117)
can you confirm it's the correct part number for that turbo?
Could they have sent you the wrong part? I really don't know what happened as these housings are just for GT30 and 35, but this housing seat has a smaller hole than the GT30 is, so I received something for a smaller turbo??? |
Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo
(Post 10958131)
I pulled my GTX3576r off the ATP 1.06 a/r T4 TS and it bolted up with no issue to the new Garrett 1.01 a/r v-band TS. You can see my housing has 2-steps and came straight from Garrett.
http://www.eng.fsu.edu/~jthagard/EVO...g/VbandTS2.JPG Thanks 240z. Even if mine is a GT30, my CHRA has also 2 steps, so I'm more and more convinced they sent me a wrong housing even if it's definitely a new Garrett Ni-resist one |
This is what a standard Garrett GT30 CHRA looks like with the 60mm turbine wheel and has 3 steps: http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/graphics...-GTX_450-3.jpg A GT35 CHRA with the 68mm turbine wheel has 2 steps and hence why 240Z's housing also has 2 steps: http://p1performance.com/dynamic_pages/rsz_img_5282.jpg |
Originally Posted by spdracerut
(Post 10958373)
The turbo you have is not a standard Garrett. It looks like it's from Owens Development and they have modified it with a non-standard heat shroud (the part under the turbine wheel).
This is what a standard Garrett GT30 CHRA looks like with the 60mm turbine wheel and has 3 steps: http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/graphics...-GTX_450-3.jpg A GT35 CHRA with the 68mm turbine wheel has 2 steps and hence why 240Z's housing also has 2 steps: http://p1performance.com/dynamic_pages/rsz_img_5282.jpg Yes I thought about my heat shroud being different, as it was changed 3 yrs ago because damaged, that's why I asked here for a feedback but then why my 2 AirResearch housings from ATP have both the 2 steps ? :confused::confused::confused: |
Originally Posted by JBL
(Post 10958417)
Hi spd, thanks for the reply.
Yes I thought about my heat shroud being different, as it was changed 3 yrs ago because damaged, that's why I asked here for a feedback but then why my 2 AirResearch housings from ATP have both the 2 steps ? :confused::confused::confused: |
Originally Posted by spdracerut
(Post 10958700)
Your old AirResearch housings were probably only cut one way in order to save costs. You can fit the 2-step, GT35 housing on a GT30 CHRA, but not vice versa. So I can see it being done as a cost saving measure/simplicity measure as they only have to stock one part number/have one machining.
Ah ok, so you're saying I could fit a GT35 turbine housing with the only difference being the wheel measure as the housing should be 100% equal? And do you think it'd be 100% ok to machine my GT30 housing seat to 2-step, or 3-step is somewhat better? Thanks |
So if I wasn't sure about staying with a gt3076r which i currently have, I could get a gt35 turbine TS housing and it would work on my existing gt30 and I would also be able to use it in the future if I go to gtx3576? Am I reading that right?
Originally Posted by spdracerut
(Post 10958700)
Your old AirResearch housings were probably only cut
one way in order to save costs. You can fit the 2-step, GT35 housing on a GT30 CHRA, but not vice versa. So I can see it being done as a cost saving measure/simplicity measure as they only have to stock one part number/have one machining. |
Originally Posted by Grimgrak
(Post 10958893)
So if I wasn't sure about staying with a gt3076r which i currently have, I could get a gt35 turbine TS housing and it would work on my existing gt30 and I would also be able to use it in the future if I go to gtx3576? Am I reading that right?
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
(Post 10959036)
No.... the turbine wheel for the GT35 is much bigger at 68mm diameter compared to 60mm for the GT30.
do you think it'd be 100% ok to machine this GT30 housing seat to 2-step, or 3-step is somewhat better? Thanks |
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