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TheBigD May 13, 2014 11:26 AM

q45 TB on SD doesn't idle when cold
 
First off I tried posting this in the tuning forums but it is not accepting new posts. And I've searched with no luck.

Now on to my issue. Like title states I have a q45 TB tuned on SD build 2.3l Gsc s2 cams stock ecu.

The q45 only has the tps hooked up.

My car will idle perfect once it's warm. But I have to keep my foot on the gas when it's cold to keep it idleing for at least 4-5 minutes before it idles on it own. I've tried fine tuning the idle screw but can't get any cold idle results.

My question is... is it a tuning issue? And where would I start adjusting? Or is it a TPS or TB issue. Anyone have any similar experience or advice. Thanks in advance!

TheBigD May 13, 2014 12:14 PM

Also I adjusted my tps all the way up to 13% when throttle is closed and it still doesn't even hit 100% At WOT it's only like 89%. Possibly bad tps?

JohnBradley May 13, 2014 04:03 PM

You have no idle motor on a Q45. You need to adjust how the car is tuned cold to "simulate" the idle motor.

TheBigD May 15, 2014 09:38 AM

alright got it to idle cold, but im still trumped on my TPS. its at 13% closed, but WOT its only 89%? bad TB bad TPS? or is there anything i need to adjust. cuz moving the tps around doesnt help, because to get it to show 100% WOT i need to be at like 21% down low on the tps =/

JohnBradley May 19, 2014 08:34 AM

It could be range of motion. Is it WOT at 89% or does it look like its only 89%?

wreckleford May 23, 2014 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by TheBigD (Post 11208608)
alright got it to idle cold, but im still trumped on my TPS. its at 13% closed, but WOT its only 89%? bad TB bad TPS? or is there anything i need to adjust. cuz moving the tps around doesnt help, because to get it to show 100% WOT i need to be at like 21% down low on the tps =/

If it is actually WOT and showing 89% I wouldn't worry. Having the closed throttle value correct is more important than having the WOT value correct.

211Ratsbud May 23, 2014 09:25 AM

Iirc less than 16% for idle circuits to be active, which includes timing stability control.

TheBigD May 24, 2014 10:57 AM

Yeah the throttle opens all the way physically. So that's what I was wondering. Thanks for the replies. I just wasn't sure if it would make a difference if the computer thought it was only going to 89%. Now I just got to fine tune this bad boy so I can get it to idle by itself right at startup without assistance .

eckok24 May 24, 2014 09:50 PM

Bump

Evo_AK Jan 1, 2015 04:47 PM

Does anyone have the wiring diagram to install the Q45 into an VIII?

DSMolition Jan 2, 2015 09:27 AM

It has no closed idle switch so you have to simulate it so the ecu knows when you are at idle. Do you have the coolant lines installed? There is a certain process of setting the cold idle with the two screws on the tb. Personally, I would ditch the tb and get something a little more friendlily. I have battled them a few times and they are very meticulous.


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